17mm ts-e, 24mm ts-e would wipe the floor with those zooms
The tse lenses have much greater control over dof at any f stop
Also the zeiss 21mm I hear is also about the best you can get.
Stay away from the zooms if you are after simply the best.
17mm ts-e, 24mm ts-e would wipe the floor with those zooms
The tse lenses have much greater control over dof at any f stop
Also the zeiss 21mm I hear is also about the best you can get.
Stay away from the zooms if you are after simply the best.
funny as most of my landscapes i feel have been taken with my 24-70 F2.8 on my 40D / 7D the 10-22 and the 16-35 tend to bend the horizon or just give me some garbage fringe and edges, also the wider lenses, tend to give a little too much sky and or fore ground, i like the compression that the 24-70 adds to the landscape...
thats my 10 cents...
M
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I'll weigh in too... I used a sigma 10-20 which I thought was fabulous for an APS-C camera; was sad to aprt with it when I got my 5DMkII; then i got a sigma 12-24 and was fairly disappointed, partly because of inability to use a screw-on filter; I have subsequently bought a Canon 16-35mm lens, which is awesome... maybe even better than the 10-20.
So... APS-C: 10-20mm sigma
Full fram: Canon 16-35mm F2.8 (II)...
Steve. 5DII, 400D, 16-35L, 24-105L, 70-300.
How about the Tokina 11-16? That is a very good WA lens too
Couldnt agree more. The 24 TS-E is ridiculously sharp, and the tilt lets you get massive levels of DOF at almost any aperture. Plus, you can shift either side left/right and up/down and create panoramas pretty quickly and easily.
Downside, price. Very expensive lens.
Ive been using sigma 10-20 with 40d for last 2 years and was preety much always happy with results and at very good price.
Tilt Shift lenses sound like a great option, if only they were more affordable.
What's the best price anyone has seen the Canon 10-22 for?
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My Canon 10-22 mm EF-S lens arrived yesterday,I plan to use it for landscape and similar,I am not going FF for some time.
So I geuss it will be with me for a good while,So I did a fair bit of reserch on this lens and other similar,this one always came out on top
in the reviews,While a FF with a 16-35 is the best,the 10-22 on a good crop body compared very well against the FF outfit.
In fact it was said they only way to tell the difference was to pixel peep,the POTN engineers are very impressed with the 10-22.
I looked at the sigma lens reviews on thier similar lens,and well,IMO better to pay the Canon price for the 10-22.
Cheers FB
BTW "Unistudent 1962' my 10-22 cost $772 from DWI that includes postage and insurance and the 2% card fee.hope that helps
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Thanks for some great information everyone
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I personally like the Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM Lens it's a brilliant lens and really sharp.........
For landscape/architecture, the TS-E 17mm f/4L and TS-E 24mm f/3,5L II are the sharpest lenses in Canon's armoury....they whack the 17-40 and 16-35 right out of the park, but at a hefty monetary premium though...
It would have to be the TSE's for DOF, and in any focal length depending on what you're trying to achieve.
A landscape shot needn't necessarily be shot with wide angle, and I use anything between 16-400mm on FF.
Interesting to see differing views on sigma 12-24 and canon 17-40.
I've used the 12-24 but only on a 30D and have found it to be good, but the filter limitation is annoying. I'm planning to go full frame and was under the impression that the 12-24 would be too wide and may vignette, so was thinking of getting a 17-40.
What is the 12-24 like on 5DMkII ?
Also, this discussion is dependent on whether you are talking about cropped sensors or FF. There's no point comparing EF with EF-S if the lens is for a FF camera.
my 16-35 on my 5D II is quite a nice mix, almost osme times i find it too wide, 24-70 is some times better!
but on the 7D the 16-35 is quite a versatile lens!
M
If your still deciding, I mainly shot with a Sigma 18-50mm on my 50D, it's a F2.8 lens, which like has been mentioned previously, is not required. I aslo use my 70-200mm L F2.8 for landscape shoting.
This is such a hot topic, Alot of more pro end togs go the TSE, which is fine if you can justify the expense or make a living using it. The Sigma 10-20mm, there are now two F3.5 solid and the F3.5 - 5.6 (I think). In a review by dpreview.com, the Tokina 12-24 and Sigma 10-20mm couldn't sperated, the Tokina has a nifty AF/MF slide rather than switch, which is a great idea. There are shorter lengths in APS-c as mentioned 11-16mm and so on.
Now that said, If you are shooting mountain ranges and so on, a 70-200mm or a 400 + mm prime could be your best choice.
What is it your are mainly going to shot ? If its a general landscape/seascape scene, you only need to look at that forum and see the popularity of the Sigma 10-20mm lens, and at arounf $400.00 Oz, price matched with CR Kennedy against best internet price, well it's not a bad decession to make.
The FF option is always there, but I would concider your body, will you up-grade? if so then the EF lens option is your best option, If not, why spend the extra if you don't really need to. Go and try a few at a good camera shop, if you like one over the other maybe try hiring it for a weekend and put it to good use, use all it features and your cameras to see the results.
Let everyone know what you decide.
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Hi Roosta,
I too am looking at a wide angle lens at the moment, and am seriously considering the sigma 10-22. I am mainly intending to shoot general landscape/seascape.
Could you please expand on the price info - $400 best internet price, could you tell me who has this for $4oo and do C R Kennedy pirce match any internet price.
Sorry but I have not bought online before and not confident in this area, so if you could elaborate on details for a novice it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Tanya
Wide isn't necessarily better for landscape, depending on the effect you're looking for, stitching several images together at a longer focal length will give a different perspective.
On a FF sensor, the nikon 14-24 f2.8 with an adapter is reputed to be far better than anything Canon have to offer, better at 14mm than Canon's prime at almost half the price, although you lose AF and the best you can achieve with a chipped adapter is stop down metering.
Merry Christmas Tanya, If you look at these two links, One is DWI (Internet importer, the CR site lists several examples) and the other is the Official page of the CR Kennedy's website. CR's are the importer and only one with rights to full warranty and so on in Australia. They cover quite a large range of products as you can see on their website. Any way. If you get the best internet price, take it with you to one of CR Kennedy's authorised re-sellers (you can search their site for SA dealers) they will price match. The Australian price is usally near double. They are helping to keep the buyer's in Australia, long live competion.
http://www.dwidigitalcameras.com.au/...rd=Sigma+10-20
http://www.crkennedy.com.au/v1/index...price%20match& and http://www.crkennedy.com.au/v1/index...price%20match&
Hope this helps.