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Bear Dale
02-11-2018, 2:53pm
Free Flickr Members please be aware of new limits giving free users a MAXIMUM of 1000 photos hosted, any over that threshold of 1000 will eventually be DELETED by the new owners of Flickr if those account holders do not upgrade their accounts to Pro.

https://blog.flickr.net/en/2018/11/01/changing-flickr-free-accounts-1000-photos/

John King
02-11-2018, 3:06pm
Thank you. Fortunately, I run my own web site ...

ameerat42
02-11-2018, 4:24pm
Thanks. I don't have a Flickr account. I liked their gobbldygook, though - bad English and all:

"Today, we’re announcing updates to our Free and Pro accounts that mark a new step forward for Flickr.
To be candid, we’re driving toward the future of Flickr with one eye on the rearview mirror; we’re certain
that Flickr’s brightest days lay ahead, but we remain acutely aware that past missteps have alienated
some members of our community. We also recognize that many of the clues for how best to build the
future of Flickr can be found in our own, rich history."

What the carp does the first italicised phrase mean?:confused013
"Lay" ahead? - Must be talking about the supply of eggs :confused013
Not to mention other misplaced punctuation, etc...

But I suppose I shouldn't complain; the little I read did not contain "going forward" :vomit1:
Yep. Primed to make more mistakes in the future :nod:

Well, I suppose the 1000 images can be maximum size :eek:

cupic
02-11-2018, 5:30pm
Greed .....When Mines finishes Im out

Colin B
02-11-2018, 10:35pm
I cannot say I am surprised by this. I joined Flikr a while ago to look at the work of better photographers than me (like Adam Brice) and started loading up a few of my better shots. I find the process quite slow and frustrating but at least the images can be seen in full resolution.

With a few million users uploading big files Flikr must be paying a motza for bandwidth and it is hardly fair to expect them to continue this service for free. The mid-tier account of around $50 per annum is hardly going to bankrupt anyone, certainly it is less than the $120 I currently pay for my online backup in Dropbox.

In the words of Milton Freedman "there is no such thing as a free lunch."

ricktas
03-11-2018, 9:50am
I cannot say I am surprised by this. I joined Flikr a while ago to look at the work of better photographers than me (like Adam Brice) and started loading up a few of my better shots. I find the process quite slow and frustrating but at least the images can be seen in full resolution.

With a few million users uploading big files Flikr must be paying a motza for bandwidth and it is hardly fair to expect them to continue this service for free. The mid-tier account of around $50 per annum is hardly going to bankrupt anyone, certainly it is less than the $120 I currently pay for my online backup in Dropbox.

In the words of Milton Freedman "there is no such thing as a free lunch."

Colin. Take a look at Google Drive. I dropped my dropbox..hehe. and swapped to Google Drive. But it depends on how much storage space you need. Dropbox has 3TB for $17.50 a month. Google Drive has 2TB for $12.49 a month. I am using Google Drive's 200GB plan at present, for $4.39 a month. Depending on your space needs, Google Drive offers more plans across data sizes than dropbox. I just figured why pay more for empty storage space that I wasn't using and I could upgrade when I need more space, rather than paying for it now, and not using it all.

Bear Dale
03-11-2018, 2:32pm
USD .96 cents a week for unlimited storage doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Some of the biggest complainers whining and moaning about the free ride being over all over the internet, when looking at their Exif data they have a lot of money in bodies and glass.

Some people really just feel entitled to hold their hands out and receive.

ameerat42
03-11-2018, 3:06pm
...Some people really just feel entitled to hold their hands out and receive.

Ahh, the way of so many large entities! :p

Gazza
03-11-2018, 3:40pm
Just veering slightly off topic here...those with PS could always make use of 'Portfolio' which is included with your subscription as another choice/alternative. You're already paying for it :grinning01:
https://pro2-bar-s3-cdn-cf1.myportfolio.com/920709cbbb94581e364e73e54e4d2c63/2c0aa282-7d66-4d09-aa0c-9bb18527ab62_rw_600.png?h=c5b799c8acadddfe301c1c5a2d9d28ab

ameerat42
03-11-2018, 3:45pm
How much space do you get, Gazza? There are other "free cloud storages" too, like from Toshiba
and I think WD, when you buy a drive. It's not much, from memory:confused013:confused013

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Oops! I just saw it's up to 100GB, which is not bad at all. I used to have 25 GB with OneDrive,
but now it says 15GB max:confused013. I wrote to them, but they have gotnot got back "soon"
like they said they would.

Gazza
03-11-2018, 3:49pm
How much space do you get, Gazza? There are other "free cloud storages" too, like from Toshiba
and I think WD, when you buy a drive. It's not much, from memory:confused013:confused013

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Oops! I just saw it's up to 100GB, which is not bad at all. I used to have 25 GB with OneDrive,
but now it says 15GB max:confused013. I wrote to them, but they have got got back "soon"
like they said they would.
Phew!...thanks for that...I had no-idea :o

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I only use it for hosting images that I post here on AP and avoid creating large images so they open in a respectable time. I have one of those painfully-slow-NBN-connections....

Mary Anne
03-11-2018, 8:16pm
USD .96 cents a week for unlimited storage doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Some of the biggest complainers whining and moaning about the free ride being over all over the internet, when looking at their Exif data they have a lot of money in bodies and glass.

Some people really just feel entitled to hold their hands out and receive.

You are so right BD :th3:

Ross the fiddler
03-11-2018, 8:25pm
Greed .....When Mines finishes Im out

Why? Why should everything be for free? Or are you unhappy with the increased subscription amount from last year,
I had joined up about four years ago but did nothing with it & only started to actually use it in recent months, so I'm OK with it. If it looks like I'll be filling it up then I guess I'll consider paying, but on the other hand, with a 1000 photo limit I would be more discerning with what images I upload.

Mark L
03-11-2018, 9:16pm
Some people really just feel entitled to hold their hands out and receive.

Yes. There's a Royal Commission currently looking into this sort of thing.

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Further.
I only use flickr as a way to up load photos to AP to share with you wonderful people here. I will not be paying anything to anyone just to share my photos with you all. So I'll just deal with the 1000 photo limit.

ameerat42
03-11-2018, 10:13pm
Why? Why should everything be for free? Or are you unhappy with the increased subscription amount from last year,...

The converse also holds - "why not?" - powered by "what's changed?"

How was it free before? I suspect other pecuniary streams. I don't know the ins and outs of Flickr finances. Was it advertising?
Why not double-dip when you can?

Ah, to be a plutocrat!
To whine and whinge!
-And plot all day;
to get other people's things :rolleyes: *

* A poem you just read here :p

tandeejay
04-11-2018, 3:47pm
Google Drive allows unlimited photo uploads if your photos are smaller than 16mp. Larger than that adds to your quota. Surely that is sufficient for posting photos for online use?

Sent from my LG-M700 using Tapatalk

Bear Dale
04-11-2018, 4:28pm
Google Drive allows unlimited photo uploads if your photos are smaller than 16mp.

Not sure what Google Drive does to photos, but they certainly take a hit in quality.

tandeejay
04-11-2018, 4:34pm
Not sure what Google Drive does to photos, but they certainly take a hit in quality.Never examined the quality closely. Will have to have a closer look.

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ameerat42
04-11-2018, 4:36pm
Never examined the quality closely. Will have to have a closer look...

Same here, but the main reason has been: trying to get a decent link for the image in Google Drive :confused013

If you have a Gmail account, you get a total 15GB storage - shared between everything, including mail.

ameerat42
04-11-2018, 6:13pm
Just as an aside about Google Drive...

Linking an image from there is still nigh impossible. Apparently you could in the (dim and distant) past.
After that, you could alter Google's share code to still make it work as an embed code, but that
apparently stopped in 2016. The best I found was an on-line site where you get the "share code"
for your Google-hosted image and paste it into a box on a website. That then generates a "proper"
(BBcode) that you can use to embed an image in a post, like on AP. To even find this "solution" I had
to use "in 2018" in the search text. - What irony: Googling how to Google :rolleyes:

But would you trust a website that converts your image links for you? :cool::eek:

tandeejay
04-11-2018, 9:21pm
ok then, maybe I move my family photos to google drive and leave flickr for my more artistic photos. Hopefully that might cut down significantly on my photos in flickr to below 1k...

Mark L
05-11-2018, 11:03pm
Delete. :eek:

Mary Anne
06-11-2018, 8:28pm
Further.
I only use flickr as a way to up load photos to AP to share with you wonderful people here. I will not be paying anything to anyone just to share my photos with you all. So I'll just deal with the 1000 photo limit.

I hope that does not mean all your images from your Bird Threads over the last three years will disappear, like what happened with Members here that had the Free Photobucket Accounts.

Mark L
06-11-2018, 8:44pm
I hope that does not mean all your images from your Bird Threads over the last three years will disappear, like what happened with Members here that had the Free Photobucket Accounts.

I think it means that the last 1000 photos I've posted here will be retained on AP. As I link another 3 the oldest 3 linked will disappear from AP.
I know I post quite a few photos but I'd think there wouldn't be to many interested members going back looking at what I'd posted 2 years back.
(Snooks may be an exception)

Mary Anne
06-11-2018, 10:24pm
I think it means that the last 1000 photos I've posted here will be retained on AP. As I link another 3 the oldest 3 linked will disappear from AP.
I know I post quite a few photos but I'd think there wouldn't be to many interested members going back looking at what I'd posted 2 years back.
(Snooks may be an exception)

I don’t know about that Mark I often search for Birds ID’s as I am sure other Members do.
And believe me it quite a disappointment when the images are missing.

tandeejay
06-11-2018, 11:07pm
I think it means that the last 1000 photos I've posted here will be retained on AP. As I link another 3 the oldest 3 linked will disappear from AP.


No, I think it means if your over 1000 you won't be able to upload new photos and past a certian date they will delete from your oldest to reduce your photos to 1000, but you still wont be able to upload new photos unless you delete photos to make space for more


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Mark L
17-11-2018, 11:06pm
The crap Flickr go on with.
"Flickr at its best is a place to connect, to discover, and to evolve as photographers and lovers of photography. This is the world’s largest photographer-focused community. Together, this newly independent community can shape the future of photography itself."
So let's do this to discourage that then,
"Free members with more than 1,000 photos or videos uploaded to Flickr have until Tuesday, January 8, 2019, to upgrade to Pro or download content over the limit. After January 8, 2019, members over the limit will no longer be able to upload new photos to Flickr. After February 5, 2019, free accounts that contain over 1,000 photos or videos will have content actively deleted -- starting from oldest to newest date uploaded -- to meet the new limit."
Yeah, I know.

ameerat42
18-11-2018, 8:18am
Corporate carp is so dressed up to make it sound believable. Who says double-think is dead?

Stay chooned for the next instalment of gobbledygook!

farmmax
19-11-2018, 12:38am
I think I should be safe. It has taken 10 years for me to upload my 10 images, so unless they dramatically lower their limit I'll be right for a while :D

ameerat42
22-11-2018, 10:41am
So air-nyway, I followed a link which indicated Flickr was owned by Yahoo...
That was good, as I have a Yahoo account :nod:

- It was apparently an old link, because it said that Verizon had bought Yahoo. (I know, who are they?)
It went on to say that Flickr was then purchased by SMugMug!:confused013:rolleyes:

Strike-me-pink! - Another money-go-round :rolleyes:

Bear Dale
22-11-2018, 12:22pm
I'm stoked that Flickr is now owned by Smugmug, the future looks bright, much brighter than either under Yahoo or Verizon/Oath.

For me, its still the ultimate photography site.

ameerat42
22-11-2018, 1:03pm
I have 2 Yahoo mail accounts, and when they were taken over by Ver/Oath (Bl... Oafs in our vernacular)
you had to click to accept their T&Cs. So I did, and I did, and I did..., each time I logged into one of them.

Then they sent me a few msgs saying to [...pls click to accept...] So I wrote back and said that I had, many
times, and still did. A week later another such message, and to them another message. FF to yet more messages
from them - and to a tirade! back. :devil1:

It seems to have abated of late :rolleyes:

Bear Dale
22-11-2018, 2:09pm
It will be good when Flickr finally get rid of the Yahoo sign in, its scheduled to happen soon!

ameerat42
24-11-2018, 9:32am
It will be good when Flickr finally get rid of the Yahoo sign in, its scheduled to happen soon!

Meantime, a happenstance for me: by having a Yahoo account, I automatically have a Flickr account :eek::confused013
Well, I tried it and uploaded 2 pics. (- Can't see them in the Photostream yet :cool:)

Bear Dale
24-11-2018, 10:50am
Meantime, a happenstance for me: by having a Yahoo account, I automatically have a Flickr account :eek::confused013
Well, I tried it and uploaded 2 pics. (- Can't see them in the Photostream yet :cool:)

Can you see them yet? Strange if you can't.

Heres my photostream, if I upload its instantaneous -

https://www.flickr.com/photos/50digital/

ameerat42
24-11-2018, 2:13pm
Hmm! I've managed to get the 3 pics to [a photostream], but it is not named "ameerat42" like I thought it would be.
Instead, it's got this weird moniker: https://www.flickr.com/photos/160711345@N08/

- Who the hecque is 160711345@N08 :confused013

A test pic from there...
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4835/45943770122_ba197f04b7_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2cZTQcC)DSC_4388ca-lr (https://flic.kr/p/2cZTQcC) by Am Eerat, on Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/160711345@N08/)
:cool:

Bear Dale
24-11-2018, 2:31pm
There's two names showing -

1. Your real name Am Eerat
2. Your Display name ameerat42


If you go into your settings, you can change either.

For a test drive for you, I've left a comment, faved a photo and invited you to add your photo to a group.

ameerat42
24-11-2018, 3:14pm
OK, ta, I see that, but I was thinking about that hex-numerical-looking text in the link. That's where I thought a version of my name would appear.
It's a minor thing, though, as the name appears elsewhere.

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Ridiculous that it took me so long to realise I didn't have to make up a completely new Flickr account :o
(Just nevva thought about it, actually.)

JoPho
24-11-2018, 3:50pm
I only use Flickr to link photos to the weekly challenges here. No other need for it.
Rather pay you guys for hosting. Perhaps there's an opportunity for you?

Mark L
24-11-2018, 11:34pm
I only use Flickr to link photos to the weekly challenges here. No other need for it.
Rather pay you guys for hosting. Perhaps there's an opportunity for you?

I previously mentioned in this thread that I only use Flickr to link photos to AP. Linking from them Flickr offers more detail than downsizing and uploading directly to AP I've found.:confused013

JoPho
25-11-2018, 1:19pm
I previously mentioned in this thread that I only use Flickr to link photos to AP. Linking from them Flickr offers more detail than downsizing and uploading directly to AP I've found.:confused013
Maybe they have an algorithm that knows exactly what to do to enhance smaller images? I remember someone on here talking about having to resize in several steps and sharpening each time for best results.

I am trialing a free site called https://postimages.org - put a trial in the test zone and all seems ok so far. It will only let you do 12MiB image size though. Didn't read the fine print however.. so..... waiting for the world to end or some such.:cool:

Photobucket as you know...put an ugly watermark of its own on your images.
There are some suggestions here... https://thetechreader.com/top-ten/18-top-free-file-hosting-sites-2018-reviews-and-ratings/
When I get more time I will give some of them a shot.

Mary Anne
26-11-2018, 6:12pm
Yes I have noticed that about my Photobucket images posted here with the free account but at least they are back.
Also noticed they never touched the images that I posted here or watermarked them when I had a paid account.

Mark L
01-12-2018, 10:00pm
Let's try linking from https://servimg.com/images.php

https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/19/88/57/91/img_1510.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/19885791/6)

It's a hoot that whenever I see Grey Teals I think of this song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsozyGR6Eo4

Tell me Grey Teal :)

tandeejay
02-12-2018, 7:56am
I can see that image in tapatalk[emoji106]

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Mark L
02-12-2018, 10:37pm
So let's do a quality comparison between https://servimg.com/ and Flickr.
First is via Flickr.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4915/44282684020_403a3c5e2f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2at7kb5)
Plum-headed Finch (https://flic.kr/p/2at7kb5)

And via servimg.com
https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/19/88/57/91/img_1410.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/19885791/7)

:scrtch:
Thoughts?

Gazza
02-12-2018, 10:50pm
:scrtch:
Thoughts?
Are you able to alter them to the same 'Posting' size while still in the AP time limit for a fair comparison?

ameerat42
02-12-2018, 11:04pm
-- Or better, post the same size, single image onto each site and link them here.

Gazza
02-12-2018, 11:07pm
:scrtch:
Thoughts?


-- Or better, post the same size, single image onto each site and link them here.
I think we're over-thinkin' this....:D

Mark L
02-12-2018, 11:15pm
-- Or better, post the same size, single image onto each site and link them here.

Why would I have presented different photos for comparison??
I have presented the same photo (and size) via the two different sites. :confused013
It shows how the different sites presents things which was the original point.

enseth
03-12-2018, 8:23am
Apart from the obvious difference in size I can't see any noticeable difference in the quality between the two, however I think we should let the highly regarded "pixel peeper" Gazza make the final call. If there's any difference he'll find it. :)

ameerat42
03-12-2018, 8:52am
Why would I have presented different photos for comparison??
I have presented the same photo (and size) via the two different sites. :confused013
It shows how the different sites presents things which was the original point.

I don't know, and where was that point made? Nevertheless, I can get the same sized image
(899x1200px) from your Flickr stream, and it displays (I think - it's a few posts away now) the
same size as the one from your other site...
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4915/44282684020_70cffdb1e7_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2at7kb5)Plum-headed Finch (https://flic.kr/p/2at7kb5) by Mark Leary (https://www.flickr.com/photos/132247206@N02/), on Flickr

Well, they're still my thoughts.

Gazza
03-12-2018, 8:57am
Apart from the obvious difference in size I can't see any noticeable difference in the quality between the two, however I think we should let the highly regarded "pixel peeper" Gazza make the final call. If there's any difference he'll find it. :)
Nah...The eyes are a bit blurry this morning. One too many Xmas parties I suspect? :cool:


Cheers - :beer_mug:

Mark L
03-12-2018, 9:42pm
Every now and then I have to tell myself that size doesn't matter.

Gazza
03-12-2018, 9:50pm
Apart from the obvious difference in size I can't see any noticeable difference in the quality between the two, however I think we should let the highly regarded "pixel peeper" Gazza make the final call. If there's any difference he'll find it. :)
Difference = 293,392 :D

Mark L
03-12-2018, 10:22pm
Let's do this again then with defiantly the same photo for those that think size does matter (and fair enough ...... )
Flickr link,
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4898/46126921011_ebf923e0a1_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2dh5wzz)

And via https://servimg.com/
https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/19/88/57/91/img_1411.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/19885791/8)

Flickr has the benefit of clicking though to see a larger presentation of the photo. Some of the things here on AP like some of the members challenges stuff don't need this.
I think the first photo here looks better in presenting the detail in the bill and eye.

Ross the fiddler
03-12-2018, 11:24pm
Yep, ya definitely gotta be defiant about this! ;) :D
My first impression was that there seems to be sharper detail from Flickr, or is it just my imagination?

ameerat42
04-12-2018, 8:59am
Well it does matter here. What I was gunny-sack gunner say yesterday and 4-got was to do less visual agonising :crzy:
and opinion jousting and avail yourself of a simple test using an image editor to look for any major differences.
For example:

Use GIMP or Photoshop and place the two (same size) images as layers in a file, then do a Difference blend of the layers.

I did it yesterday but neglected to report the result (I saw a bird out the window). Just again now on these two spoonbills
I could not detect any difference in the sharpness or polish of their bills. - Ie, if there's no difference you will just get a
straight black screen.

If you're still not convinced, do a sharpen on one of the layers only and see what happens.

cupic
24-12-2018, 7:17pm
Im a paid subscriber .But my gripe is that a new owners doubles the price ..I mean whats on offer thats beneficial to everyone