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Kevvy
25-10-2016, 11:01am
I'm interested to know how people save layers in photoshop after editing is over.
mostly the background and a sharpening layer.
I've become confused about the different methods and would like to know what would be the best way for best results.
Cheers Kevvy

ameerat42
25-10-2016, 11:14am
I am ? sure if I understand you...
If you want to SAVE layers, you should used Photoshop's PSD file format.

But, if you just want to save the file for display as a jpeg, then just Flatten the layers.
The Merge command "merges" layers, and layers to the BG. Sometimes, though, Merge
still requires that you Flatten the image (but not always).

But "best" as in what, because the layers are still flattened?

Kevvy
25-10-2016, 11:20am
Sorry I should of been clearer about what I'm doing.
its the final save and conversion to TIFF for print output.

ameerat42
25-10-2016, 11:37am
OK. So that you don't send unusual files to the printer's, just flatten the TIFFs.

Oh, as above even if you're printing them yourself. Your TIFFs are just final copies of
your editing results. If you wanted to keep original editing format, then use PSDs.

So, reiterating: just flatten.

(Aside: AFAIU it, "merge" is just a useful command when combining a number of layers.)

PS: I'm unaware of "Stamp" in the layers context:confused013

Gazza
25-10-2016, 12:21pm
I'm forever changing my mind, so I keep a copy of the original RAW file and the edit PSD (complete, unflattened) in an 'On-going' folder.

To resize for here (AP) I create a 'Stamp visible layer' (Ctrl + Alt + Shift + E) then right click on that and choose Duplicate Layer → Document → New...(name it what ya like) that will open as a flattened image. Then resize, apply any extra sharpening/edits then Ctrl + Alt + Shift + S to 'Save for the Web'

I'm sure there are plenty of other options as well...but that's workin' for me (until I change my mind, again :D)

fillum
25-10-2016, 5:56pm
For simple edits I just flatten and save as a .jpg (but I don't overwrite the original file).

For more complex edits (typically anything with layer masks or more than a few layers) I save as a .psd without any merging or flattening, then I do resizing (and output sharpening if necessary) and save as .jpg (sometimes I flatten, sometimes I don't bother - doesn't seem to make a difference). I don't resave as a .psd when closing the file (so the resizing is not stored in the .psd).

If I have a situation where I have layers that I haven't used in the final output (some experimentation for example) I sometimes do a 'stamp visible' prior to saving the .psd file to give me a reference point of what layers I had used when saving the .jpg file.



To resize for here (AP) I create a 'Stamp visible layer' (Ctrl + Alt + Shift + E) then right click on that and choose Duplicate Layer → Document → New...(name it what ya like) that will open as a flattened image. Then resize, apply any extra sharpening/editsI was doing this but found that the EXIF data wasn't being transferred to the new document. Could have been a setting somewhere perhaps, I didn't bother chasing it up.




Cheers.

Kevvy
26-10-2016, 10:24am
I'm forever changing my mind, so I keep a copy of the original RAW file and the edit PSD (complete, unflattened) in an 'On-going' folder.

To resize for here (AP) I create a 'Stamp visible layer' (Ctrl + Alt + Shift + E) then right click on that and choose Duplicate Layer → Document → New...(name it what ya like) that will open as a flattened image. Then resize, apply any extra sharpening/edits then Ctrl + Alt + Shift + S to 'Save for the Web'

I'm sure there are plenty of other options as well...but that's workin' for me (until I change my mind, again :D)

I like the sound of this method. I already keep a copy of the RAW file I also make a copy of the file after camera RAW edits and no sharpening or Photoshop edits.
My only problem now is hard disc space on the pc :o

ameerat42
26-10-2016, 10:32am
...My only problem now is hard disc space on the pc :o...

Solution: Go to Officeworks. Buy a 1TB Toshiba Canvio drive for $77 (not the one for $88 where you buy some cloud storage), or,
buy a 2TB one for about $138.

If you don't like Toshiba for some reason, then pay more for a Western Digital passport. (I have both since when they were priced alike)
but now get the Toshibas. BUT DON'T get Seagate!!

PS: These are USB3 external drives, so if you have USB3 you're laughing. If not, they work at USB2 speeds.

Gazza
26-10-2016, 11:28am
I was doing this but found that the EXIF data wasn't being transferred to the new document. Could have been a setting somewhere perhaps, I didn't bother chasing it up.
True, I forgot to mention that :o
If it's important (it's handy to have when posting here on AP), you can export the information from the original, then import it to the new... File → File Info → Camera data → Preferences → Export.






I like the sound of this method. I already keep a copy of the RAW file I also make a copy of the file after camera RAW edits and no sharpening or Photoshop edits.
My only problem now is hard disc space on the pc :o
I'm using FastStone viewer that was mentioned here on AP (Apologies to whomever, I've forgotten) and among it's many features, you can set it up so that you press the letter 'C' and it'll send a copy to your designated folder.
I'm also really savage when it comes to deleting images...a poorly composed or blurred image is never going to be any good, no matter how long you keep it :D

Am makes a good point above...that's a lot of space for a few dollars - :nod:

Mark L
26-10-2016, 9:33pm
Am makes a good point above...that's a lot of space for a few dollars - :nod:

And there's nothing wrong with Seagate.

ameerat42
26-10-2016, 9:38pm
And there's nothing wrong with Seagate.

[Personal experience]Until you find that every one you've ever bought (~5 from memory) has packed it in.
Add to that, the few that others have bought have done the same, and nothing has happened to the other
brands. [/Personal experience]

Mark L
26-10-2016, 9:43pm
And there's nothing wrong with Seagate.

From my personal experience.

ameerat42
27-10-2016, 9:58am
Here's an additional bad experience with them.
http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/c/technology/hard-drives-data-storage/portable-hard-drives
Scroll down to the 1TB Seagates and check their prices:eek:

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On a different tack - Kevvy, the title of this thread sounds like the things a BULLY:eek: would be
thinking about!! :D:D