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OzzyDevil
11-06-2014, 6:50pm
Some advice please.. I'm looking at a laptop Asus g75vx model laptop which only comes with a 1tb and no SSD.. The 1tb is will have an IS on it and drivers and stuff..

Anyway my question is can you clone the the 1tb to the ssd and OS or is if better to do a fresh install ? I know the Samsung has a program call magician software but I am not sure.. Any help would be great :)

Paul

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ricktas
11-06-2014, 7:46pm
I would do a fresh install. Often the drive letter the OS is on is encoding into some of the OS files. Thus if you clone it, it may not work properly. There are also issues that arise when cloning to a different sized drive, that can also happen. You might find it actually works, but then in a couple of months, when you have it all setup and running nicely, you will come across something that just will not work.

OzzyDevil
11-06-2014, 7:59pm
Yeah I am thinking that too.. I have never used an ssd at all but watching you tube vids and stuff I am looking at getting one.. Just another question what is the benefit or running 2 of them ? I know I don't need 2 at this stage but if I buy a second 1 ?

Paul

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arthurking83
11-06-2014, 8:14pm
I don't think the Samsung software will aloow you to clone a larger drive to a smaller drive .. even if the larger drive only has a small amount of data onto it.

So the process to do it is a bit convoluted.

You need to partition the original larger hard drive into at least 2 sections.
1. should be the original portion of the hard drive with the OS and all the other stuff which is the same size as the drive that the Magician software will clone too.
2. will be the other section.

So you would calculate what size new partition you require, to keep the original part of the HDD(ie. C: drive) to 512Gb

So you end up with a PC with two partitions ... C: drive with the original data on it, and D:(or any other letter) drive that will be blank.


BUT!!! ..... note that it's very rare for a laptop to come to you with a 1Tb drive and all of that 1Tb available to you to use.
There will be a small partition already made by the vendor(in this case ASUS) that will have a recovery partition. The size varies and only you will know it once you find it.
Problem is that the manufacturer will make it invisible to the user.

Most likely you will have lost approximately 4 .. maybe a bit more gigabytes to this hidden partition.

if you have good software to partition the drive, this partitioning software will see the hidden partition .. and you have to make sure you factor this into the equation.

ps. the samsung software isn't very good. It just straight copies the drive as is.
What can happen is that if you make the C drive 511Gb, what the Magician software will do is create a 511 Gb partion of the original C drive and then create another 1Gb partition of free space.
it really is quite dumb!
But it's easy to use other than these annoyances.

OzzyDevil
11-06-2014, 8:24pm
Thx mate for that.. I didn't really wanted the 1tb just on its own I wanted a SSD with it but that cost extra :( so I did abit of research and found the Samsung evo pro 512 a good drive to use.. I checked B&H website out and the reviews were very good.. I was just going to use the 1tb just for a backup :) I know the laptop has 2 hard drive bays so thats good for starters..

Paul

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falcon91
12-06-2014, 12:42pm
I'd also recommend doing a fresh install. If you just clone the drive, some of the SSD's features won't be used by windows. TRIM is one of these features that allows the SSD to maintain high performance as it can clear junk data from the drive, though you can enable it if you clone the drive

OzzyDevil
13-06-2014, 4:03pm
Ok thx for all your help :)

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