I have the 24-105, its absolutely sucks on a cropped sensor camera. Its literally almost useless. It just sat in my room while i used my 50mm 1.8. Then i went full frame and it is brilliant. Never comes off.
My bro has the 17-40, its awesome on the cropped sensor and insane on the full frame. I think the 16-35 is overkill, its way more expensive than the 17-40 and would you ever need f2.8 on a landscape lens?. Plus with the 17-40 you can get on from b&h for less than $800 AUD Delivered to your door. Its a bargain. No stamp duty or tax. Do it
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But who is to say it's only for landscape? I use mine a lot for action shots plus as someone else said that extra 1mm is a reasonable difference. Just because it's wide doesn't mean it's only a landscape lens.Originally Posted by OwenS
I also found the 24-105 very good on a crop body, I guess it all depends on what we shoot at the end of the day.
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Er the OP did. He said for holiday architecture and full body portraits. He has an 85mm and an 18-200mm. So why would he want a 24-105 as well? 24mm on a cropped body would be TERRIBLE for holiday architecture/street photography.
If the 1mm difference is worth hundreds of dollars then so be it. But i would think the 5mm on the other end that are lost may be even worse in terms of general usability.
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I never said for him to buy the 24-105, I actually recommended he buy a WA for crop if you read further up. I'm just stating that the 24-105 isn't terrible on a crop body, which you did say and is an over exaggerated comment.
I would dare say that extra 1mm, f2.8 and better IQ is worth the money in my books and many others. I'd love to go buy a TS-E so I could really get into architectural photography but I can't afford to drop $2500 on a single purpose lens then another $1800 WA zoom for the rest of my photography. At least with the 16-35 I can do action work, landscape, architectural etc... with the most versatility and best IQ in the most cost effective package for those applications. That's why it is recommend, it's a very versatile lens, more so than the 17-40.
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Buy the Canon 28-300 L!!!!!!
its got the zoom, the IS, its white and u can legally say u own an L lens!
OP didnt mention anything about wanting good IQ though, hehehehe
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When I bought the 40D some time back I agonised over what lens to put on. I still had the 20D with its standard grade 17-85mm, so in the end I went for the L 24-105mm. As K Rudd would say. 'you know something'...I have never regretted the decision.
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For a crop sensor, 17-40mm f4 L for me.
For a ff, 24-105 f4 L would be a good bet.
Just spent 2 weeks testing a 24-105 on a 5d II and a 40D.
I found the IQ of the lens on the 40D nice and a noticable improvement to the non L lenses I had used (but not the L primes). I agree the focal length is restrictive at the wide end but I also had a 10-22 so that matched ok. To the OP I think the Canon 10-22 is the best bet to really open up your photographic opportunities in the short term on a crop camera. If buying Sigma make sure you have time to test it and replace in case you get a poor copy (I had to do that for 10-20 I bought years ago).
Interestingly I was surprised that I didn't love the lens on the FF. The range was good but for that sort of money I wasnt happy with the vignetting and distortion at the 24mm end and a soft area in the middle of the range (around 70mm). I also wasn't happy with the lens/barrel creep. I also found f4 a bit restrictive some times. Perhaps a bad sample (but it was on loan from Canon). Probably convinced me not buy one myself but given the IQ and versatility I can see why people do love it.
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Vignetting and barrel distortion are easily corrected using eg DPP.
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With the 24-70mm f/2.8L and the 24-105 f/4L is it just a toss up between the longer focal range or the faster lens or is there noticeable difference between image quality etc...