CCing, Why is it when?

[Roosta]

Why is it when people ask for CC/Critque/feedback, and you give then some, they either,

No 1, Don't like your suggestion,

No 2, Get their back up, when you mention something.

Or,

No 3, Be very blunt/take it hard, when you offer your point of view on an image/picture they have presented for feedback.

No 4, Shit, sometimes they actually agree, Love it. (Good - Bad)

I ask you!!!

Isn't photographyart an individual form, is it not open to like/dislike - opinion?

Why bother saying, Here is my work, what do you think?? and not like all the responses from all, that;s the point of asking, is it not?

I, for one, love HONEST FEEDBACK, sure it might hurt if your best image sucks to others, but the truth should be told.

Isn't this how we improve, if the person with the feedback offers something constructive and maybe, (GOD FOR BID) something technical to better it/you ?

What do you think ????

[ricktas]

Facebook Factor

They are so used to seeing 'nice photo' that when someone is honest, then seeing everyone on facebook loves their work, then it must by you that is wrong.

[Roosta]

Facebook Factor

They are so used to seeing 'nice photo' that when someone is honest, then seeing everyone on facebook loves their work, then it must by you that is wrong.

How True, It's a shame they can't see past the iPhone 4s (or insert Phone and type) Sh!T pic that they thinks it's it. Get real, Please. Oh, I love it. (I was so Pissed last Saturday night that I'm glad you took a pic so I can Remember it .. LOL

Thanks for decent sites like this one.

[MarkChap]

With you 100%

I was recently approached by an acquaintance, who is new to photography, too new to be putting herself "out there" as a photographer, to critique some of her work.
First image I commented on, met with complete and unfaltering diss-agreeance with everything I had to say, and believe me the image was bad. Hence I have not offered anything further to this young girls development. Which is a shame, because she does show some signs of ability, but if she won't accept any feedback, when she asked for it, then why should I bother.

I love to get the good, bad and the ugly
I will generally take on board what is said, try and apply that to future work, doesn't mean that I necessarily like my image any less, I am just able to see the points presented by others.

[Roosta]

With you 100%

I was recently approached by an acquaintance, who is new to photography, too new to be putting herself "out there" as a photographer, to critique some of her work.
First image I commented on, met with complete and unfaltering diss-agreeance with everything I had to say, and believe me the image was bad. Hence I have not offered anything further to this young girls development. Which is a shame, because she does show some signs of ability, but if she won't accept any feedback, when she asked for it, then why should I bother.

I love to get the good, bad and the ugly
I will generally take on board what is said, try and apply that to future work, doesn't mean that I necessarily like my image any less, I am just able to see the points presented by others.

Mate, all the way,

I took (KIWI's) hard comments the right way, when and still do ask for it, otherwise, how are we to learn/develop our said skills.

Richard and Darre (Sport Forum) offered me some hard, in your face CC, and I learn't so much from it. Thanks to them and so many others on this site, they've made me a better photographer.




Personal note ---- Now, just need to bet aycee and bloody mongo... LOL..

[Xenedis]

I think I know which thread prompted you to start this one...

[Roosta]

I think I know which thread prompted you to start this one...

John,

Maybe, But seriously, If I don't like one of your shots for what ever reason/or love one of your shots for what ever reason. Please.

If I posted (and have done) a shot of a 'Bird' (or insert yours) that I thought was pretty good, and asked for quality feedback, (and got it, thankfully) and they thought it was SHIIEETTEE, How would we improve?

That's the point, is it not?

Mate, I've followed your work on this site, and always tried to be the most Honest I could be, you provide this site with some stunning images, and I always try to provide what floats my boat about it.

thanks,

[Xenedis]

Maybe, But seriously, If I don't like one of your shots for what ever reason/or love one of your shots for what ever reason. Please.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I saw the thread and I saw the way the guy reacted.

[Roosta]

I'm not disagreeing with you. I saw the thread and I saw the way the guy reacted.

Sorry mate, wasn't meant to come across as disagreeing..

It's more in general across the site, not so just that one post, but, yeap, that was the katalyst for this little diddy starting.

Apollo made a great point re CCing, if you think your image may attrack some feedback you wish it not get, put it under the 'Not for Critque' section if your (Not you John ((Generalising))) worried. Thats what it's there for.

Cheers mate,

[MMF]

The facebook effect is right everyone is so used to hearing pleasant things they don't like the truth. The politically correct world means no one can say anything bad or its a huge scandal. The worst bit is people who post photos that you can see are bad and expect to hear good things. As someone who is learning i deiberately post photos that aren't quiet there so i can figure out what to do to fix them.

[Roosta]

The facebook effect is right everyone is so used to hearing pleasant things they don't like the truth. The politically correct world means no one can say anything bad or its a huge scandal. The worst bit is people who post photos that you can see are bad and expect to hear good things. As someone who is learning i deiberately post photos that aren't quiet there so i can figure out what to do to fix them.

Love your work MMF, that's what we want to hear. This site, and the fab people on this site, will alwys help...

Enjoy,

[flame70]

The facebook effect is right everyone is so used to hearing pleasant things they don't like the truth. The politically correct world means no one can say anything bad or its a huge scandal. The worst bit is people who post photos that you can see are bad and expect to hear good things. As someone who is learning i deiberately post photos that aren't quiet there so i can figure out what to do to fix them.

Slightly off thread but in the same vein when I was working at a theatre in the city this awful noise come from just outside my dressing room as i was warming up, I went out to see and hear a young actor practising one of my songs. I had to tell him to shut up as it was so bad that it threatened to put me off. He said what would i know- well i know you're tone deaf
and really that will never change i said. 2 weeks later watching TV and on he comes for a singing reality show- i nearly fell off my chair as the judges crucified him saying hasn't anyone told you you're tone deaf- no he says all my friends say i got what it takes....Really!!

[ricktas]

He said what would i know- well i know you're tone deaf
and really that will never change i said. 2 weeks later watching TV and on he comes for a singing reality show- i nearly fell off my chair as the judges crucified him saying hasn't anyone told you you're tone deaf- no he says all my friends say i got what it takes....Really!!

Sounds like he needs a hearing check. Tone deaf and selectively deaf too! thanks for the story, it made me smile

[Roosta]

Slightly off thread but in the same vein when I was working at a theatre in the city this awful noise come from just outside my dressing room as i was warming up, I went out to see and hear a young actor practising one of my songs. I had to tell him to shut up as it was so bad that it threatened to put me off. He said what would i know- well i know you're tone deaf
and really that will never change i said. 2 weeks later watching TV and on he comes for a singing reality show- i nearly fell off my chair as the judges crucified him saying hasn't anyone told you you're tone deaf- no he says all my friends say i got what it takes....Really!!

Awesome, The irony of it all.

[ricktas]

Try going on Facebook and giving even a hint of critique. I did recently, to someone who is on AP, to be met by a barrage of abuse from that person's friends. I just removed them as a FB friend, cause I really could not be bothered putting up with the crap.

[davsv1]

I find it just as annoying or maybe even more when you offer something of a critique or even just a comment and it goes unacknowledged completely. How hard is it to say thanks or just hit the "thanks for this post" button.
Ok, ignore me and I will ignore you too, easy done.

[Roosta]

I find it just as annoying or maybe even more when you offer something of a critique or even just a comment and it goes unacknowledged completely. How hard is it to say thanks or just hit the "thanks for this post" button.
Ok, ignore me and I will ignore you too, easy done.

That is a bug bear for sure.

I personally don't like the "Thanks" "Like" button and have voiced that. I would much prefer, as you, just a simple comment in return, as this is what the OP is looking for.

Thanks mate,

[davsv1]

That is a bug bear for sure.

I personally don't like the "Thanks" "Like" button and have voiced that. I would much prefer, as you, just a simple comment in return, as this is what the OP is looking for.

Thanks mate,

I hope you don't mind the "thanks" button in this respect, i.e. acknowledgement of a post rather than critique

[Roosta]

Try going on Facebook and giving even a hint of critique. I did recently, to someone who is on AP, to be met by a barrage of abuse from that person's friends. I just removed them as a FB friend, cause I really could not be bothered putting up with the crap.

Too true,

But Rick, where they asking for CC?

[ricktas]

Too true,

But Rick, where they asking for CC?

It was actually just one photo that they manipulated several times, each with more 'effects'. I had commented how I 'liked' a couple of the versions, and when the one came up that I thought was over-cooked and commented with "I prefer the previous versions, this one is way over done"... I copped the wrath of the friends..hehe

So no, they did not ask for critique directly, but they happily accepted by favourable comments on the previous versions. All's fair in love, war and photography.