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    They mentioned "36.3 mega pixel" six times in that one short article but then again it really is something to boast about.

    oh so curious how Canon responds to this when the 5D MKIII comes out
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    mintos its been a long time waiting i wonder that the price is $$$$

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    US$3000 for the standard D800, and US$3300 for the D800E version (without the AA filter)

    ...and add a few hundred dollars for local price, if not more....
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    .....wow, the price is competitive !!!
    and 3000px wider than the D700..... that's realestate !
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    D800E seems that you can 'disable' the AA filter in camera. ie you can also enable it?
    It could just be loose wording, but I read it as slightly ambiguous.

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    This D800 is a true revolution :


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    wow, you'd need to have a pretty good system to be able to handle those files! Wonder how many will also need to upgrade computers when buying this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by reaction View Post
    D800E seems that you can 'disable' the AA filter in camera. ie you can also enable it?
    It could just be loose wording, but I read it as slightly ambiguous.
    Yeah, i think that is just poor product description/translation.... i think the "in camera disabling" means that it is disabled permanently in camera. I dont think the AA filter can be turned on/off... If that were the case, who wouldn't buy the D800E version... for an extra 300 bucks, being able to get that extra resolution when required would be well worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyza View Post
    They mentioned "36.3 mega pixel" six times in that one short article but then again it really is something to boast about.

    oh so curious how Canon responds to this when the 5D MKIII comes out
    Quote Originally Posted by triptych View Post
    wow, you'd need to have a pretty good system to be able to handle those files! Wonder how many will also need to upgrade computers when buying this!
    Oh how times have changed, not so long ago Canon were marketing "their more mega pixels than Nikon" message loud and strong.

    Back then the Nikon owners were saying much the same thing as the quotes above.

    Guess what, it is simply progress and if Canon respond with a suitably impressive equivalent release of a 5D MK111 ( seeing as they all seem to know what each other is doing it is highly likely ) you guys above will probably not even blink an eyelid at having to upgrade a pc to cope with the larger size files.
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    Interesting change to a more round-shouldered body shape, somewhat like Canon. Probably to assist with the transition .

    Be interesting to see what the local prices come in at (not that it's relevant to a lot of people). (Still no local pricing on D4.)




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    Finally !!! Mongo gets a new worthwhile camera after an 8 year wait !!!!
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    20Mp too many and 4fps too slow.

    Price sounds good tho, and a few full sized images on flickr I've seen also look quite OK.

    An AA filter is literally a hardware filter.
    It looks like a gauze type pattern etched very finely on the filter substrate. You can't see the crosshatch pattern on the filter with the naked eye, the etching is measured in microns.

    You can remove the AA filter on the standard D800 if this is what is wanted, but how Nikon can justify an additional $300 expense for not including a particular part is bordering on offensive!
    (They've really got their heads screwed on backward those folks )


    Now the problem is Nikon Aus's pricing policy.

    As of 7-2-12 US$3000K equals AU$2770(or thereabouts).

    That's a lot cheaper than I expected(~$4K or more) and now the D800 as is, is back on my want list depending on IQ at higher ISOs .. especially ISO6400 and 12800 compared to the D700 and D4.

    This puts a lot of pressure on the price structure of the D400 now too!
    They couldn't possibly justify over $2K for a D400, if the D800 is only at $3K!!

    Nikon seem to suffering from pricing policy amnesia!
    (they seem to have forgotten their prior history)
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    It is my understanding that the filter is a physical layer placed over the sensor. This has been removed from the sensor in the D800E, so no its not a function you can switch on and off unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by triptych View Post
    wow, you'd need to have a pretty good system to be able to handle those files! Wonder how many will also need to upgrade computers when buying this!
    My gaming PC comes in handy every now and again when you need speed especially for photo editing ;-)

    Does Anyone know which stores can pre-order to australia. B&H and amazon are US only and have a pre-order form for the D800 up for $2999. Adorama who do ship to Australia dont have the pre-order up yet.

    I know camera pro and vanbar have local pre-orders but there prices are quite inflated.

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    A DX user moving to FX can now buy a D800 and their existing DX lenses'll still be highly useful. Afterall the D800's like having an FX + a D7000 in one so there's still plenty of resolution in DX crop. It'll ease the transition and provide a nice upgrade path for DX users who want to go FX but have already invested heavily in DX lenses. They can now slowly sell off and replace lenses over time. Nice touch.

    I guess my only disappointment is the lack of pixel binning. I'd love to have the option of 9MP RAW file with excellent per pixel colour and noise qualities. I know you can do it in post but its not the same
    That and the AF placement but its a minor quibble.

    Ok.. I don't need a D800 but I really want one!!!!!

    Anyone else having trouble downloading the sample pics. I think Nikon's servers' going into meltdown LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by swifty View Post
    A DX user moving to FX can now buy a D800 and their existing DX lenses'll still be highly useful. Afterall the D800's like having an FX + a D7000 in one so there's still plenty of resolution in DX crop. It'll ease the transition and provide a nice upgrade path for DX users who want to go FX but have already invested heavily in DX lenses. They can now slowly sell off and replace lenses over time. Nice touch.

    I guess my only disappointment is the lack of pixel binning. I'd love to have the option of 9MP RAW file with excellent per pixel colour and noise qualities. I know you can do it in post but its not the same
    That and the AF placement but its a minor quibble.

    Ok.. I don't need a D800 but I really want one!!!!!

    Anyone else having trouble downloading the sample pics. I think Nikon's servers' going into meltdown LOL
    haha I thought that the site was broken at 3pm when they were released but its probably because 500 million people are all trying to DL the 20MB jpeg at the same time...

    correction above ^^ B&H do ship to Australia ranging from $80-190 for the D800

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    Quote Originally Posted by image2paint View Post
    Does Anyone know which stores can pre-order to australia. B&H and amazon are US only and have a pre-order form for the D800 up for $2999. Adorama who do ship to Australia dont have the pre-order up yet.

    I know camera pro and vanbar have local pre-orders but there prices are quite inflated.
    Quote Originally Posted by image2paint View Post
    correction above ^^ B&H do ship to Australia ranging from $80-190 for the D800
    With the US stores putting that sub 3k price on that body I reckon you can safely bet that it will be in short supply for at least 6 months. As of this morning the exchange rate to OZ pesos puts it at around AUD $2800.00 and even allowing USD$200.00 for delivery it is still a bargain.
    The expensive UK sellers are taking pre orders at around AUD $3500.00 so I feel that Australian retailers will start at about the $3600.00 mark as well considering that they are trying to sell D700 bodies at $2700.00 .

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    Interesting about the anti-aliasing filter. At present we can clean our own dust bunnies cause the AA filter is really what we wipe clean. If there is not one, then it certainly makes me wonder about cleaning the sensor. I wonder if rather than the AA filter, they are placing just plain clean high quality glass or something in front of the sensor.

    I can see some gooses causing all sorts of damage to their sensors, if they wet clean it, if there is nothing at all over the sensor...hmmm

    I like this camera. Think Nikon might be onto a bit of a winner with this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricktas View Post
    ..... I wonder if rather than the AA filter, they are placing just plain clean high quality glass or something in front of the sensor.

    ......
    Yeah, they have too, otherwise the register distance(rear of lens to sensor distance) is out my a millimeter or so and the image won't be focused correctly.

    It's similar too removing the IR/UV filter, where it's best practise to replace it with glass filter to keep the image focused properly.
    Image will still focus, but will be incorrect according to how you see it in the vf. Liveview focus still works perfectly tho as it's independent of the filters in place.

    I'm not sure if there's enough mirror leeway to refocus the vf to match an unfiltered sensor tho .. never done it.

    If I do eventually get a D800 myself, I'll retire the D300 and hand it down to my son, where I'll get back his current D70s and remove the IR/UV filter.
    So I've been looking at all the options with respect to this filterless conversion, and how to best go about it. It seems simple enough to do, but the question is, whether to replace the filter with the glass cover or leave it exposed and deal with it via a mirror adjustment.


    I'm not 100% sure, but I think authorised Nikon retailers are not allowed to sell Nikon USA gear(bodies and lenses) to most overseas customers any longer.
    That is, you can purchase any used gear from them and they'll ok it to Aus, but not official new Nikon USA gear.
    You may need a US address to have it posted too.
    I think it's a regional thing they have to abide by. Like I said, not 100% sure on this .. just something I've read about.
    The HK retailers don't care apparently and won't be told who to sell too .. they just sell to whomever.

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