Private property and photography?

[Scotty72]

Not really sure I get you here.

You say you are on public land, but shooting over/across private property not zooming in windows etc. Shooting landscapes, trees etc.

What's the problem?

If you stand on Mt Wellington and photograph Hobart, it would be insane to ask the permission of tens of thousands of property owners whose property you would be in your field of view.

Right?

Scott

[bxaftw]

Not really sure I get you here.

You say you are on public land, but shooting over/across private property not zooming in windows etc. Shooting landscapes, trees etc.

What's the problem?

If you stand on Mt Wellington and photograph Hobart, it would be insane to ask the permission of tens of thousands of property owners whose property you would be in your field of view.

Right?

Scott

yep you've missed the point of the question.. your example of mt wellington is an extreme case and not really a sensible arguement.

an example of what i mean is; pulling over at a paddock (private property) and setting up a tripod at the side of the road (public land) and standing there for perhaps 10-20 minutes taking shots of the paddocks with the recently cut hay bales as the sun sets..
now while this action is harmless, there is a house on the farm and it is just out of the frame, there may be people in the house wondering what this guy is doing taking photos of our property...

this is what i was hoping to get comments on, do i go up to the house and ask permission to avoid any problems or do i just shoot away.

what about land that has fencing and gates which are open, yet there is no house/owner to be seen, can i let myself on the land to shoot a beaut dam?

[kiwi]

yep you've missed the point of the question.. your example of mt wellington is an extreme case and not really a sensible arguement.

an example of what i mean is; pulling over at a paddock (private property) and setting up a tripod at the side of the road (public land) and standing there for perhaps 10-20 minutes taking shots of the paddocks with the recently cut hay bales as the sun sets..
now while this action is harmless, there is a house on the farm and it is just out of the frame, there may be people in the house wondering what this guy is doing taking photos of our property...

this is what i was hoping to get comments on, do i go up to the house and ask permission to avoid any problems or do i just shoot away.

what about land that has fencing and gates which are open, yet there is no house/owner to be seen, can i let myself on the land to shoot a beaut dam?

a) the first example is not ridiculous, its exactly what google do
b) enter someones property without permission, well, take your chances, anything could happen

[arthurking83]

yep you've missed the point of the question.. your example of mt wellington is an extreme case and not really a sensible arguement.

an example of what i mean is; pulling over at a paddock (private property) and setting up a tripod at the side of the road (public land) and standing there for perhaps 10-20 minutes taking shots of the paddocks with the recently cut hay bales as the sun sets..
now while this action is harmless, there is a house on the farm and it is just out of the frame, there may be people in the house wondering what this guy is doing taking photos of our property...

this is what i was hoping to get comments on, do i go up to the house and ask permission to avoid any problems or do i just shoot away.

.......

This is where I've come unstuck!

My policy now is that I shoot and not worry about it, unless the property owner raises the issue with me at the time.

I've shot literally a hundred thousand 'private property' images(mainly paddocks, fields, farms), and have never been questioned by the property owners, and on a few rare occasions where they have noticed me, they've all done so simply out of curiosity and gone on with their business.
One time tho the owner saw it as a threat, and confronted me about it with a hostile attitude.
Deleted the images he felt threatened his property and I moved on to the next scene.

Shoot first ask questions later, and if confronted about the nature of the photograph just delete it if the owner requests it.

As to the topic of entering land which is clearly open to doing so, even if it's private land .. 99.9% of land owners don't care mind or worry about it, unless you're doing something stupid!
If they see a photographer standing alone in their field with a tripod, it's quite obvious to them what this person is doing... it's not like you;re on their land in a hot rod doing donuts or drag racing or something silly.
Apart from this one chap, all land owners I've come across are quite cluey people.