Thanks William. As soon as I finished posting off I went and read another post somewhere that spoke about IS for inside a church!!!!! no flash!!!! Point taken and remembered. I must admit I did miss seeing the 10-22 and the 60 2.8 without IS. I think my point was "is there a lack of quality(glass)in these lenses that they need to put IS with them to compensate? Where on FF you have a choice with or without IS and price of course. After all this I have become more knowledgeable so I appreciate the imput from everyone. And my decision is EF-S 17-55 f2.8 IS. Cheers AND HAPPY NEW YEAR