You are not a pain in the donkey to me. And there was never any fuss, for me.
I have explained my comments and the reasons for them, above.
It is relevant for the OP, if for example he has a 135 format body and is comparing the 17 (on APS-C) and the 24 (on a 5D) - as the OP stated that he wants the second to shoot wider than he.
Also my comments are relevant, generally, as I mentioned.
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