Give up smoking WELL WORTH A LOOK

[Duane Pipe]

How many of us smokers want to quit! Put your hands up
How many of you have tried or heard of an electronic cigarette.
I have tried Patches twice, the first time I gave up for three months but due to annual leave and heading bush with the lads for a week, drinking and just having a great time I gave in and started again.
The second attempt I lasted nine months using patches once again. I found the initial couple of months easy but after going off the patches I started to have really bad anxiety with sleepless nights and anxiety attacks which lead me to smoking again and back into my normal routine.
Anxiety runs in our family and I hate it and going without my nicotine just made it worse.
Any how my cousin and I have purchased some E Sigs with an initial layout being a couple of hundred dollars and he has almost quit smoking which is fantastic for him as he has smoked for thirty+ years
He has tried numerous ways of quitting and has never gone half a day without a smoke and in the last few weeks he has cut down to less than four smokes a day.
In short you can still get your Nicotine fix by importing it from China or USA and adding it to a Glycerine based mix, which you put in the E sig, If you are interested I can supply the links to the best and cheapest sites to buy from.
It is legal to import a three months supply of personal use nicotine and so far my cousin has received all that he has imported, with one lot opened by customs and still being cleared.
I am still waiting for my nicotine to arrive and then I will give up too.
Now before I get shot down let's just think about the damage that 4000 chemicals from smoking Tobacco can do!, So I think that vaporising a vegetable compound mixed with nicotine surely can't be as bad as Tobacco
Would love some feedback from the more educated

[geoffsta]

We have them at work. You can get them in any health centre that has a quit co-ordinator for about $18.00. The filter refills are pretty cheap as well.

[Duane Pipe]

We have them at work. You can get them in any health centre that has a quit co-ordinator for about $18.00. The filter refills are pretty cheap as well.

Yeah tried them ones Jiffy but once you get into the finer details of smoking and the need for a throat kick you soon
need something better.
I recon for around $400.00 outlay, with the cost of the starter kit,Hmff a smoker would have a twelve months supply of smokes

[Mark L]

I've given up trying to give them up.

[Duane Pipe]

I've given up trying to give them up.

LOL Not hard enough Mark

[fjoe45]

Have you thought about trying Champix, they work realy good. It stops your brain from wanting a nicotine fix. You need to ask your doctor for a script.

[ausguitarman]

Have you thought about trying Champix, they work realy good. It stops your brain from wanting a nicotine fix. You need to ask your doctor for a script.

Champix are not for everyone.

Many people react differently to whatever is in the tablets. Some have no reaction at all.

My wife described it as kickarse dreams and has been off the ciggies for a couple of years now. Me on the other hand had a bad reaction. I could feel that anger and rage building up in my arms and hands to the point where I was ready to explode. Now I'm the mellowest laidback person you'll ever meet and this was quite disturbing to me.

I've spoken to plenty of people and all have had varying reactions. Some good, some bad.

I'd love to quit. I've smoked a pack a day of Winne Red's for over 30 years and made the attempt to go back to Blues about 6 months ago which I've stuck with.

I'll have a look into this.

[FallingHorse]

Champix are not for everyone.

Many people react differently to whatever is in the tablets. Some have no reaction at all.

My wife described it as kickarse dreams and has been off the ciggies for a couple of years now. Me on the other hand had a bad reaction. I could feel that anger and rage building up in my arms and hands to the point where I was ready to explode. Now I'm the mellowest laidback person you'll ever meet and this was quite disturbing to me.

I've spoken to plenty of people and all have had varying reactions. Some good, some bad.

I'd love to quit. I've smoked a pack a day of Winne Red's for over 30 years and made the attempt to go back to Blues about 6 months ago which I've stuck with.

I'll have a look into this.

My husband gave up by using Champix without any ill effect. I, however turned into a monster. So angry - I wanted to kill everyone. I quit Champix when I got really angry at my son for no reason and decided that I was better of smoking than being a monster. Also I felt constantly ill, like morning sickness that lasted all day. Definately not for me.

[Mark L]

LOL Not hard enough Mark

How many of us smokers want to quit!

[Duane Pipe]

I dont like the sounds of the side affects from Champix
I think the good thing about e sigs (vaping) is that you can make the nicotine as strong as you like and eventually drop the dose down to zero.
The nicotine that I ordered is 36mg which I intend to dilute down to 12mg using Vegetable Glycerin, there are online calculators
for mixing the ratios. there has been minimal study
regarding e sigs and the harmful affects but IMHO it has to be less risky than tobacco.
If you are interested I can post some links to online supply's

[ricktas]

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[Duane Pipe]

No problem Rick. I think its a good alternative to smoking though. The government dose not like the idea and I think it is due to the fact that it will help people to quit, no smokers no tax

[ricktas]

No problem Rick. I think its a good alternative to smoking though. The government dose not like the idea and I think it is due to the fact that it will help people to quit, no smokers no tax

I am not saying members cannot discuss it, just that they need to consider their own medical history etc, before embarking on a path that may not be suitable to them. Please continue to have the discussion, based on the fact that everyone is aware that medical advice presented on AP is the views and opinions of the member posting it, nothing more.

[kiwi]

Lung cancer cures smoking too

Even though I watched my grandfather die of it after smoking all his life I still smoked the bloody things until 10 years ago

Patches worked for me but what really works is the desire to give up in the first place

Duane, the government spends much much more on healthcare for smokers than it collects in tax, so, don't think for a second that it's the reason..... They don't want to lose your votes is the reason

[Duane Pipe]

Lung cancer cures smoking too

Even though I watched my grandfather die of it after smoking all his life I still smoked the bloody things until 10 years ago

Patches worked for me but what really works is the desire to give up in the first place

Duane, the government spends much much more on healthcare for smokers than it collects in tax, so, don't think for a second that it's the reason..... They don't want to lose your votes is the reason

Good point Darren I could imagine the cost of healthcare not only from smoking but also alcohol abuse. I also watched my uncle
die from it too, he had worked hard his whole life to live his dream on 10 acres and 5 years in to his retirement he found that he had lung cancer

[William]

Has anybody tried Hypnosis to give up My partner has tried Patches, Champix all did'nt work , She had a stroke 2 weeks ago, So the family has her booked in for Hypno therapy as a last resort to quit ?

[exwintech]

Geoffsta - By "them", do you mean the 'electronic' cigarettes, as available in the US, EU and many other places? At "health centres" in Vic?

Calling the Quitline from here - Sydney - and asking about the devices, gets the answer that they aren't legal here, and they couldn't give any advice on "how to obtain".

I've tried Patches, Gum, and both in combination (a bit nauseating..) - without success.

As the "E-Cigs" - at least from what one can Google-up about them - are fairly effective - one might indeed wonder why they haven't gained Govt approval...

Perhaps they will - since they've just announced that as only 15% of Australians smoke now - they'll get it down to 10% by 2018...

So I'm wondering if you meant legal, privately-operated, health centres that one could get a Doctor's referral to - or what...?

Regards, Dave.

[ricktas]

Has anybody tried Hypnosis to give up My partner has tried Patches, Champix all did'nt work , She had a stroke 2 weeks ago, So the family has her booked in for Hypno therapy as a last resort to quit ?

As someone who has studied hypnotherapy, and can place a person in a hypnotic state if I (and the person) want to. Hypnotherapy can be very effective for a variety of things, but as said above, by others, it is those that have the drive to want to give up already, and who are easy/able to be hypnotised, that get the best results from it. Some people are very susceptible to hypnotic suggestion and others are near on impossible.

Some are also good at 'fighting' against the suggestions/directions given to them, whilst in a hypnotic state. Thus over a period of time, the power of the hypnotic suggestions lessens and reduces, so more sessions may be needed. Like all methods of giving up smoking, each person needs to have the will-power and want to give up. Hypnosis can assist, as other things can assist, but it is ultimately up to the individual to give up, with the assistance of a chosen method.

Hypnosis is really just using techniques to get a person to relax their muscles to a point where they are willing to listen and accept suggestions, nothing more. To be done well it has to be customised to the person. For example, I could use a scene of lying on a tropical beach, with the waves lapping the shore, white fluffy clouds and deep blue sky as a way to induce someone, but if the person hates sand and lying on a beach for them, is not a nice experience, then I have buckleys of getting them into a hypnotic state.

Hypnotism is not magic, it just relies on really one basic premise, and that is, that if you ask someone to do something for you, most people will do it. It is using that single trigger to get people to do what you want them to do, by making them so relaxed that they will accept your suggestions.

For smoking it can work well for some, and for others it doesn't do a thing.

[William]

Quote Dave : I was going to start thread, "who are you" just so that we could learn a bit more about each other.

We are Dave , I had a Myocardial Infarction (Heart Attack) at 45 out Surfing at my favourite spot Currumbin , So I'm pretty aware of whats happening now , This has caused an Arrhythmia that I have to live with ( On Meds) , Then my Back packed it in as well , Nerve compression L5/S1 , So taking photos was a good option for an old fart

[Allie]

Has anybody tried Hypnosis to give up My partner has tried Patches, Champix all did'nt work , She had a stroke 2 weeks ago, So the family has her booked in for Hypno therapy as a last resort to quit ?

Sorry to hear of this happening to your partner, it must have been quite a shock for you all and I hope she is recovering. My partner's GP used hypnotherapy to help him give up both smoking and pain meds and it worked for him but, as Rick indicated, he did want it to work. This was well before I met him and we have been together over 13 years. I just asked him and he said it took more than one session to get off the pain meds (but it still worked quite quickly) and then only one additional session for the smoking. So let her know it may not be an instant fix in case she expects it to be and abandons the treatment too quickly. Best wishes on her recovery and optimism that she has success at quitting cigarettes.