RAW vs JPG

[Doninoz]

...would it be worth me shooting in RAW and using up so much memory space?

You can buy a small digital storage device to take with you. I have one that has 80Gb of space. I just put my memory card in the slot and press copy. It has a small screen on it so I can also review the photos on the device. Most of them you can also print from...sort of like a mini computer if you like. Mine is a Epson P–6000 Multimedia Storage Viewer. Best investment I made! Hope this helps. Regards Don

Epson P–6000 Multimedia Storage Viewer.jpg

[kiwi]

You can buy a small digital storage device to take with you. I have one that has 80Gb of space. I just put my memory card in the slot and press copy. It has a small screen on it so I can also review the photos on the device. Most of them you can also print from...sort of like a mini computer if you like. Mine is a Epson P–6000 Multimedia Storage Viewer. Best investment I made! Hope this helps. Regards Don

Epson P–6000 Multimedia Storage Viewer.jpg

If you look on epson's website at the moment until 30th June they have a great special on these - over half price - I ALMOST bought one

In any case, I think they are great technology but to be honest a better investment would be an ipad or a mini laptop for the same price.

[Tommo224]

Holy crap, I just searched for pricing on that. $900?!

http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/revi.../p-6000/259886

[Doninoz]

Holy crap, I just searched for pricing on that. $900?!

http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/revi.../p-6000/259886

You can get it cheaper than that! I paid under $700.00 for my 80Gb. Thee also other cheaper storage units around...ones that don't have a screen.

[Ebdrel3]

Lucky I saw this thread then as I was going to shoot jpeg just for memory space! Yes I will have to invest in one of those thanks Doninoz
HOPEFULLY I take can some half decent pics. Thanks guys

[kiwi]

Lucky I saw this thread then as I was going to shoot jpeg just for memory space! Yes I will have to invest in one of those thanks Doninoz
HOPEFULLY I take can some half decent pics. Thanks guys

with the cost of memory these days I think it's a non-issue

[Ebdrel3]

Yes I did see that last night Kiwi and almost bought one too. Still thinking about it but with only 2 and a half months til our trip, I think the hubby may kill me if I don't put the money towards the actual trip lol

[Tommo224]

Yes I did see that last night Kiwi and almost bought one too. Still thinking about it but with only 2 and a half months til our trip, I think the hubby may kill me if I don't put the money towards the actual trip lol

Last time I was there (Thursday) JB Hifi had 16gb 'Sandisk Ultra' (20mbps) memory cards for $45. I was thinking of picking up one or two after pay day (hopefully still on sale then!). Otherwise eBay also have the same ones for sale. Might be worth a look?

And if you have a laptop or eeePC at home that you can pack away, leave it in the hotel and just load the photos off your camera on to it if you're low on memory cards/space.

[Doninoz]

Last time I was there (Thursday) JB Hifi had 16gb 'Sandisk Ultra' (20mbps) memory cards for $45. I was thinking of picking up one or two after pay day (hopefully still on sale then!). Otherwise eBay also have the same ones for sale. Might be worth a look?

And if you have a laptop or eeePC at home that you can pack away, leave it in the hotel and just load the photos off your camera on to it if you're low on memory cards/space.

Just be careful of Ebay with Sandisk Cards...I bought a 32Gb card and when I got it I noticed that I was getting some black dusty stuff around the place where the card goes. Looking at it through a magnifying glass I notices that the card had a very sharp raised edge. I spoke to Sandisk and they asked me to send them the card...It was a fake! Fortunately Paypal refunded me. I finally bought one from Ebay from a dealer in Melbourne (Sandisk confirmed him as a reseller). I can't remember his name now though. It could have damaged my camera though so I was a bit upset.

[Obes]

You guys have converted me by explaining how much more effective raw is.

*noob comment* Isn't it more horses for courses ?
If you are confident your exposure and white balance are good and you are about to take a zillion shots, then JPG saves you time ? Or if you aren't sure you will have enough storage for the number of photos you are about to take. (A full day of shooting school sports for instance)

If the lighting is hard, you aren't sure you have the settings right, the shot is important enough that you want to be able to rescue the shot, then RAW is the better option ?

You can of course take the middle ground and do RAW+JPG (well I assume Canons can ?).

eg. If I am taking a relatively long action sequence I doubt I could fill the buffer of my camera using JPGs but I am pretty sure it fills if I do RAWs, and certainly fills if I do RAW+JPG.

[I @ M]

*noob comment* Isn't it more horses for courses ?
If you are confident your exposure and white balance are good and you are about to take a zillion shots, then JPG saves you time ? Or if you aren't sure you will have enough storage for the number of photos you are about to take. (A full day of shooting school sports for instance)

If the lighting is hard, you aren't sure you have the settings right, the shot is important enough that you want to be able to rescue the shot, then RAW is the better option ?

You can of course take the middle ground and do RAW+JPG (well I assume Canons can ?).

eg. If I am taking a relatively long action sequence I doubt I could fill the buffer of my camera using JPGs but I am pretty sure it fills if I do RAWs, and certainly fills if I do RAW+JPG.

Sean, I reckon that is a pretty good summary of "the needs" of one against another.

Outdoor sport where lighting is fairly good and consistent should allow for consistent exposure and colour and as you said if the operator is sufficiently experienced with their gear then the speed ( camera and card buffer for rapid action sequences ) and storage requirements favour JPEG enormously.

At the other end of the spectrum for someone like Edbrel3 who anticipates taking "lots" of holiday shots I would recommend purely raw images as it is unlikely that pictures are going to be taken at 5+ frames a second to get those "lots" of pictures, rather I suspect that over the course of the trip many will be taken in uncertain lighting with differing white balance needs.

The raw + JPEG option can work well by setting the JPEG image size to "small" for use as a preview or to create quick thumbnails but otherwise I don't see the point in filling two cards with data that should be essentially the same.

Horses for courses is a very apt description.

[Ebdrel3]

Thanks Tommo might check JB out. Might not worry about eBay though just in case I do get a dodgy one

[kiwi]

Sean, fair call, if shooting daytime sport I just use jpeg also

[Ebdrel3]

So with the nikon d300s it has the twin card slots. So if I was to shoot in both RAW and jpeg, I can set it so the RAW can be saved onto the CF card and the jpeg to the sd card yeah?

[kiwi]

So with the nikon d300s it has the twin card slots. So if I was to shoot in both RAW and jpeg, I can set it so the RAW can be saved onto the CF card and the jpeg to the sd card yeah?

Yes, but Id do it the other way around and save raw to a SD card and jpeg to the CF card - SD card's in high capacity are cheaper and faster ( I think) - or at least that's the config I have a 16GB SD card and a 8 GB CD Card in a D300s

[geoffsta]

I just recently took over 300 shots in RAW and it only filled the 8Gb sdcard to a bit over half full, 4.75Gb. And that was of the model aircraft. Shootng 3 - 5 shots at a time with no dramas on the D90.
I'm not sure how many Kiwi would take in an outing, but I wouldn't think it would be much more than that.

[kiwi]

lol, I take on average 400 shots per soccer game and often take 2000 in a day.

[geoffsta]

lol, I take on average 400 shots per soccer game and often take 2000 in a day.

WOW. Thank god for digital.

[kiwi]

I know a guy in the states that shoots about 20,000 a weekend doing cheer and dance. He goes through a camera every 3-4 months

[neil70]

This is were i show how much i don't know.
I mainly shoot in jpeg, as i shoot sports (aussie rules and mx). In a day at jnr footy i will take on average 1500 shots and about 500 at MX. I don't use raw becouse the time it takes me to pp is huge (I am not verry experianced at it) where i can do the days photos quicker with jpeg.
This could be becouse i dont know how to do it quicker in raw as i havent used it much but when i do it seems to take forever to pp.