User Tag List

Thanks useful information Thanks useful information:  3
Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: Funny and Insightful post on Asylum Seekers

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    06 Nov 2010
    Location
    Hobart
    Posts
    197
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Funny and Insightful post on Asylum Seekers

    http://www.mamamia.com.au/weblog/201...m-seekers.html

    A few laughs, and a lot of good points. Check it out.
    --=3 In Veritas Lux E=--
    Bodies: Canon EOS 5D Mk II, Canon EOS 550D
    Lenses: EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM, EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM, EF 50mm f/1.4 USM
    Strobist: 2 x Speedlite 580EXII, 4 x Yongnuo RF-603 Radio Tranceivers, Yongnuo ST-E2 IR Transmitter
    3 x Manfrotto Light Stands, 2 x Softboxes, 2 x Bounce Brollies
    Tripod: Vanguard Alta Pro 263AT, PH-50 Panhead

  2. #2
    Moderately Underexposed I @ M's Avatar
    Join Date
    04 May 2007
    Location
    Marlo, Far East Gippsland
    Posts
    4,911
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricImages View Post

    A few laughs, and a lot of good points.
    I failed to laugh and I also missed the good points.

    Seemingly the author thinks that all "refugees" or "asylum seekers" have fled their country due to persecution or fear for their life and have headed to Australia in order to simply keep on breathing.

    I don't give any credence to his thoughts on that when overwhelmingly the people that are attempting to settle in Australia have been out of their country for quite some time ( years in some cases ) and quite often spending large ( by even Australian standards ) amounts of money making their way to the shores of this country.
    They escaped from their "home country" with their lives and cash, they have travelled through parts of the world where they aren't persecuted or in danger of being killed but are still hell bent on moving to Australia presumably because they simply want to live here.
    Andrew
    Nikon, Fuji, Nikkor, Sigma, Tamron, Tokina and too many other bits and pieces to list.



  3. #3
    It's all about the Light!
    Tech Admin
    Kym's Avatar
    Join Date
    15 Jun 2008
    Location
    Modbury, Adelaide
    Posts
    9,641
    Mentioned
    18 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Point 1 is wrong. You can be both an Asylum Seeker and an Illegal Immigrant at the same time.
    Illegal Immigrant = someone who is either undocumented and/or did not follow Australian immigration processes; and that is why they are detained until assessed.

    There are other glaring errors in the article, but we get the idea anyway.
    To me the best solution is to speed up the assessment process so they are either repatriated or allowed to stay and not kept in detention for more than 12 months.

    If we want a stable population (given water, CO2 and other issues) then we should also cut immigration by about two thirds or more.
    regards, Kym Gallery Honest & Direct Constructive Critique Appreciated! ©
    Digital & film, Bits of glass covering 10mm to 500mm, and other stuff



  4. #4
    Member
    Threadstarter

    Join Date
    06 Nov 2010
    Location
    Hobart
    Posts
    197
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by I @ M View Post
    I failed to laugh and I also missed the good points.

    Seemingly the author thinks that all "refugees" or "asylum seekers" have fled their country due to persecution or fear for their life and have headed to Australia in order to simply keep on breathing.

    I don't give any credence to his thoughts on that when overwhelmingly the people that are attempting to settle in Australia have been out of their country for quite some time ( years in some cases ) and quite often spending large ( by even Australian standards ) amounts of money making their way to the shores of this country.
    They escaped from their "home country" with their lives and cash, they have travelled through parts of the world where they aren't persecuted or in danger of being killed but are still hell bent on moving to Australia presumably because they simply want to live here.
    Your issues are answered here: http://gregegan.customer.netspace.ne...al/appeal.html - a statement written BY a refugee. You'll find that few of our neighbouring countries are signatories to the appropriate UN conventions - have a look at the map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convent...us_of_Refugees. This means that they have no obligation, or means, of processing refugees.

    For people who have travelled via these countries, Australia may well be the ONLY country they get to that accepts refugees.
    Last edited by ElectricImages; 21-04-2011 at 2:54pm.

  5. #5
    Member
    Threadstarter

    Join Date
    06 Nov 2010
    Location
    Hobart
    Posts
    197
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Kym View Post
    If we want a stable population (given water, CO2 and other issues) then we should also cut immigration by about two thirds or more.
    Maybe get ruthless with the Visa overstayers - send the bloody backpackers, packing back. After all, there are tens to hundreds of times more of those than there are people arriving by boat... XD http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/arp/stats-02.html
    Last edited by ElectricImages; 21-04-2011 at 2:58pm.

  6. #6
    Moderately Underexposed I @ M's Avatar
    Join Date
    04 May 2007
    Location
    Marlo, Far East Gippsland
    Posts
    4,911
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricImages View Post
    Your issues are answered here
    Firstly, I have NO issues that need answering. I merely made an observation based on what I see as very flawed perceptions by the author of the article.



    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricImages View Post
    You'll find that few of our neighbouring countries are signatories to the appropriate UN conventions - have a look at the map: This means that they have no obligation, or means, of processing refugees.
    Does that mean that they WON'T accept newcomers to their land?

    As for the UN conventions and particularly ---- http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml --- if any single one of those points relating to the way people are treated is broken even in the smallest degree by any member country signatory to that convention then the UN has far bigger issues to address than worrying about the legal way in which Australia is processing refugees seeking to enter this country. Unfortunately it seems that Australia has had to adopt a stance that Australia purely acts towards the refugees in a lawful manner, a moral stance has been denied, destroyed particularly by those seeking to enter this country under false pretences. There have been far too many accounts of people claiming to be from a country / region / religion etc. and who are subsequently found out to be falsifying their claims.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricImages View Post
    For people who have travelled via these countries, Australia may well be the ONLY country they get to that accepts refugees.
    I think if you look into it, the countries that do accept refugees and asylum seekers are taking in people from the same countries / regions / religions etc. as those who travel to Australia.

    Some refugees choose the USA, others Britain, France etc etc and others choose Australia.
    Last edited by I @ M; 21-04-2011 at 3:43pm.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •