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    The end of the Internet? (IPv4 --> IPv6) [UPDATE] IPv6 for AP!


    UPDATE IPv6 for AP below!


    Refer: http://www.ausphotography.net.au/for...ges_on_the_net

    http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2011/delegation

    APNIC received the following IPv4 address blocks from IANA in February 2011 and will be making allocations from these ranges in the near future:

    * 39/8
    * 106/8

    Reachability and routability testing of the new prefixes will commence soon. The daily report will be published on the RIPE NCC Routing Information Service.

    Please be aware, this will be the final allocation made by IANA under the current framework and will trigger the final distribution of five /8 blocks, one to each RIR under the agreed "Global policy for the allocation of the remaining IPv4 address space".
    In English ... the local authority APNIC has been given the LAST block of IPv4 address that can be doled out.
    These will run out in the next few years.

    So ISPs will have to make do after this, and things will start getting interesting.

    Don't panic, but changes are coming.

    UPDATE IPv6 for AP below!
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    Thank god, I'm so over the Internet
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    More ... http://www.impress.com.au/press-rele...v4-runout.html

    @kiwi - hand in your iPhone, 'puters, job etc. As none of these work without the 'net. When do you want your AP account closed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi View Post
    Thank god, I'm so over the Internet
    Guess what, your computer has an OFF switch!
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    its not that big a problem as these days routers use network address translation, all that means is your isp will give you a private ip address that gets translated to a public ip address, there are 3 ranges of these 10.0.0.0, 172.0.0.0 and 192.168.0.0 (might have the octets wrong as its been a while since I did networking 101), and with ipv6 coming out we will have plenty of address spaces, the reason we havent started using ipv6 is because we havent needed to!

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    IPV6 is a big deal though. A LOT of equipment doesn't support it. A LOT of systems will be programmed to use IPV4 addresses (think VPNs etc).

    NAT is what has allowed us to go this long without switching to IPV6 - but it's not a great model going forward. Having NAT for your home or office is one thing, but you wouldn't want to have NAT for a whole ISP, or a whole country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kym View Post
    In English ... the local authority APNIC has been given the LAST block of IPv4 address that can be doled out.
    These will run out this year.
    It should be noted that this is simply the last /8 APNIC (ie, a regional Internet registry) has been allocated, and thus made available for allocation to service providers.

    The supernets service providers already have is another story. There's likely to be a lot of address space out there, but obviously the 4.2 billion IP addresses IPv4 offers is not sustainable forever without using NAT or moving to IPv6. The sky won't come crashing down quite so soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by macrocephalic View Post
    NAT is what has allowed us to go this long without switching to IPV6 - but it's not a great model going forward. Having NAT for your home or office is one thing, but you wouldn't want to have NAT for a whole ISP, or a whole country.
    It seems to work for Telstra, as Telstra assigns RFC 1918 addresses to customer mobile devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agent86 View Post
    its not that big a problem as these days routers use network address translation, all that means is your isp will give you a private ip address that gets translated to a public ip address, there are 3 ranges of these 10.0.0.0, 172.0.0.0 and 192.168.0.0 (might have the octets wrong as its been a while since I did networking 101), and with ipv6 coming out we will have plenty of address spaces, the reason we havent started using ipv6 is because we havent needed to!
    NAT (and CIDR) have been around for a long time and have extended the life of IPv4. But that has reached its end. You're right --- need drives change. The need is upon us (in the next couple of years)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion

    Bottom line CIDR and NAT are not that scalable. IPv6 is coming and some ISPs offer it already (dual stack).
    We actually need to be migrating now (or at least seriously planning) as you will see bits of the 'net become unavailable to IPv4 only user and businesses.

    Its not like a hard Y2K date, but something that will sneak up on people.

    My next router will have IPv6! It would be silly to buy a router today that does not have IPv6. (Although the vendors will love you for it)

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    An update...

    I've been running dual stack Ipv4/IPv6 for a while.
    It makes little difference as there are yet very few IPv6 only sites,
    due to the fact the the IPv4 address space still has a bit left, although all address blocks are allocated.

    That said, many ISPs have deployed IPv6 or are in the process of doing so.
    The latest model routers from most vendors support IPv6 and many older models have had firmware upgrades
    (my Billion 7401VGP-R3 got IPv6 firmware this year).
    And even if your router does not support IPv6 then ISPs provide a tunnelling service where you can get IPv6 over your IPv4 connection.
    You get IPv6 with the NBN by default.

    Even Bigpong have IPv6 http://www.zdnet.com.au/telstra-laun...-339321752.htm (Business & Government)

    AP will be dual addressed as soon as our hosting provider allows that.
    We need two things to happen:
    • cPanel (our server management console) have full IPv6 support (expected early 2012)
    • Hosting provider to deploy cPanel with IPv6

    NB: Our hosting provider has deployed IPv6 on their network infrastructure.
    My guess is that AP will be IPv6 enabled near the end of 2012.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_deployment#Australia

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    Big News!!!

    AP will be IPv6 addressable in the near future,
    hopefully in time for IPv6 world day.
    (6th June 2012)


    More information:
    http://www.worldipv6day.org/

    http://www.ausphotography.net.au/for...ges_on_the_net



    Details/technical:
    • It will be seamless dual stack, i.e. we will have both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses for www.ausphotography.net.au
    • If your ISP provides IPv6 (eg. Internode, Telstra Business),
      and you have it turned on in your router and on your PC you will be access AP via IPv6
    • NBN will have IPv6
    • Windows 7 has IPv6 on by default
    • The latest MacOS has IPv6 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4667
    • Windows XP has a free IPv6 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2478747
    • Linux will most likely have IPv6 enabled, you may need to configure your firewall



    Q: So what do I need to do?

    A: Nothing! Unless you want to.

    Eventually IPv6 will be default for everything, but right now we are just getting ready
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    Never heard of it until I read this thread Kim
    I did a compatibility test using this site.. http://www.worldipv6day.org/

    Here are the results. I have only just looked into it and from what I think I have learnt so far is all that I need is a IPV6 compatible router

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    Or upgrade the firmware in your router and turn IPv6 on (and ensure its available from your ISP)

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    Thanks for that Kim.

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    We did not make IPv6 Day but our hosting provider is making some progress.
    See: http://www.ausphotography.net.au/for...73#post1066173

    We will keep you informed

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    AusPhotography is now IPv6 Enabled

    For most users you need to do nothing. If IPv6 is available it will be used.

    What does this mean?
    • If your ISP supports IPv6 (eg. Internode) and...
    • Your router and ISP account are setup for IPv6 and...
    • Your PC is setup for IPv6 then:
    • AusPhotography will use IPv6 instead of IPv4


    In Firefox there is a nifty addon that shows the site status (4 or 6) http://www.hunen.net/4or6/

    IPv6.PNG

    Technical notes:

    You may need to restart your router and PC to ensure you flush the DNS cache to pickup the IPv6 address as it was only setup today
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    For those with Optus .. IPv6 is not available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arthurking83 View Post
    For those with Optus .. IPv6 is not available.
    Bigpong is only IPv6 for business for now (I Think)

    NBN is fully IPv6

    iiNet has a trial and is expected to go production in 2014

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    Speaking of NBN ... Simon Hackett is on the new NBN board http://www.nbnco.com.au/about-us/our-people/board.html
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