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    Pentax promotional activity in Oz

    I've just received the lates C-NET e-mail espousing great things Nikon regarding entry level dSLR's. The D3100 @ $939.

    I don't recall C-NET ever reviewing a Pentax; in fact, I'm struggling to remember anyone, outside of international publishers, making any comment about Pentax in Australia. You don't see the like's of Pentax in Harvey Norman etc; only in the specialist retailers.

    I wonder why CR Kennedy isn't getting into the faces of these reviewers. There's a fairly loyal group of users out here that quite enjoy seeing the Pentax name out & about.

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    Try The Age's technology section.

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    This is all too true.

    Another site that I am a member of, the admin fellow also publishes tech stuff blog and contacted CR Kennedy direct for some information to use as editorial, so no cost to them, at last report they didn't even respond at all to his requests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjjohnno View Post
    Try The Age's technology section.
    More info?

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    1: Do C R Kennedy particularly care if Pentax sells well? Sure, they are the importer, but they import a lot of other stuff too, so it's not crucial for them.

    2: Assume that CR Kennedy decide to spend a lot of money promoting Pentax. If it works for them, they might double Australian Pentax sales, and what happens? Yep, you got it. Pentax says "thanks very much for all your work over the years, now bugger off, the Australian market is big enough for us to open a branch office in now. How do they know this won't happen? Their best strategy is to spend as little on promotion as they sensibly can.

    3: Pentax have always flown under the radar. That's their style. It works for them. They save and incredible amount of money by not participating in the marketing hi-jimks Canikon get up to. Do you know how much it costs to buy prime shelf space at a Hardly Normal type chain? We are talking hundreds of thousands of dollars as a minimum. As a Pentax customer, I'd prefer that they do not do this nonsense. No wait, I shoot Canon ... doesn't matter. You get the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xjjohnno
    Try The Age's technology section
    Quote Originally Posted by jibbonpoint View Post
    More info?
    What? More info? From The Age technology section? (snigger)

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    Info on how to view the info. Was it today, yesterday (hint - link?)

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    I don't agree with 1: That's just unprofessional if it's true.
    Certainly 2: But surely that's a contractual issue. Again, it's hardly professional to deliberately underperform.
    3: As MarkChap said, they were offered free advertising & didn't take that up so you could understand that they wern't going to pay for it.

    I've found CR Kennedy very easy to deal with on most occasions with the odd not so easy.

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    I asked at my local Hardly Normal why they didnt stock Pentax and the reply was that they were not interested due to warranty issues not being resolved quick enough. Dont know how true that statement is because I have had my K10D back to CR Kennedy's twice and both times was about a 2 week turn around, which I do not find a bad serivce.
    C&C most welcome, please if reworks are made post what adjustments etc have been made so I can learn from them

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Kembrey View Post
    I asked at my local Hardly Normal why they didnt stock Pentax and the reply was that they were not interested due to warranty issues not being resolved quick enough. Dont know how true that statement is because I have had my K10D back to CR Kennedy's twice and both times was about a 2 week turn around, which I do not find a bad serivce.
    You trust a HN sales person? ha! The BS all the time - you can tell coz their lips move.
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    What's wrong with Pentax in Oz you ask.

    I think you could start with an 'out of touch with reality' distributor, who doesn't seem to show any real interest in promoting the product.

    If you do a staticice check on the DA* 300mm lens you will find local prices between $1988.85 and $2159.00.
    B & H currently list the lens at $US1119.95 Add shipping and GST and you have it in your hands for around $AU1300.00.

    Some of the more recently released lens don't show this huge disparity but hey, if your looking for a new system this would have to be a factor in your decision making process.

    I think Tannin got it right. To CRK, Pentax is just one of the products in their line up. They don't share the passion that we, who have chosen Pentax as our photography platform, have.

    Will this change? Possibly, if Pentax International get off their arse and give their new promo appointee the bucks to make some noise.
    But if you believe the rumours, Hoya would like to offload Pentax. However a company with a highly sought after product will be more appealing to potential buyers.

    The bottom line? Buggered if I know. I love my K20D, am lusting for a K-5 and some glass longer than 300mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trublubiker View Post
    If you do a staticice check on the DA* 300mm lens you will find local prices between $1988.85 and $2159.00.


    The bottom line? Buggered if I know. I love my K20D, am lusting for a K-5 and some glass longer than 300mm.

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    Call me cynical if you like Kev but with those prices and your lust for something maybe in the 400 to 500 mm range of lens it rather stands out that maybe you should be looking at Sigma lenses which can be had at reasonable prices and quality and probably have a higher profit margin and are imported in Australia by oops, I didn't really think that out loud did I?
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    Andrew, I'm hearing what you say.

    It's a shame that Pentax aren't listening. They have given us a bloody good body, but left us long range shooters in the lurch.

    My next lens is probably going to be the Sigma 150-500. Pisses me off that I have to change camps though.

    And I love my Sigma 105 Macro, so it won't exactly be breaking new ground.

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    Pentax have a new 400/4 which I have not seen reviews of, but will undoubtedly be utterly superb. You could get one of those.

    Er ... with the change, you could buy a nice new DSLR and a night out for eight at the restaurant of your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tannin View Post
    Pentax have a new 400/4 which I have not seen reviews of, but will undoubtedly be utterly superb. You could get one of those.

    Er ... with the change, you could buy a nice new DSLR and a night out for eight at the restaurant of your choice.



    I think that is still on the Pentax carrot dangle list.

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    There used to be a SMC Pentax-FA* 400mm f/2.8 ED IF (6kgs) and you can get a SMC Pentax-FA* 600mm f4 ED IF on special order.

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    G'day all

    I posed a very similar Q to this thread some 6-9-12 months back
    I agree with the sentiments of the O.P here ... yes, I note also that the chain stores only seem to stock, and flog to death via the letter-box junk mail stuff, the basic 2 dSLR lines, while the ACT camera stores stock an occasional 'other' they are hard to find

    I am surprised by this, as back in the ole dayz when the Spotmatic was king, CRK was very much to the forefront in the industry. Nowadays, I don't know any more

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    Well, maybe someone from CRK may care to comment. Perhaps they only watch the "other" thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trublubiker View Post
    Andrew, I'm hearing what you say.

    It's a shame that Pentax aren't listening. They have given us a bloody good body, but left us long range shooters in the lurch.

    My next lens is probably going to be the Sigma 150-500. Pisses me off that I have to change camps though.

    And I love my Sigma 105 Macro, so it won't exactly be breaking new ground.

    Cheers

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    What was the name of the Sigma distributor locally? Ken someone?

    I tend to agree with I@M and Tannin. CR Kennedy sell a wide range of stuff, and there are too many cases of making a brand successful and then having the international company come in and set up a local subsidiary. I don't think this is a lack of professionalism, just business.

    At the same time, with an owner that is not committed
    But if you believe the rumours, Hoya would like to offload Pentax. However a company with a highly sought after product will be more appealing to potential buyers.
    you're never going to get the product and marketing investment needed to rival Nikon or Canon (or even Sony) - regardless of the quality of the offering.
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    CRK are the distributor for Sigma as well.

    Disagree that Hoya is not commited to Pentax Brand for DSLR and if you want to look at product iinvestment to rival canikon and sony then just take a look at 645D . Pentax has done very well - it has the best APS-C sensor currently on the market with the K5 and the 645D is making a worldwide impact and all on a shoestring marketing budget.

    Think Pentax 600mm F4 is still available to order, a professional surf photographer uses Pentax equipment and utilises that lens.
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