Your minimum hourly rate

[Kym]

Its weird when you think about it, esp. the devaluation arguments that have been had before
and as I suspect this is a non-profit outfit.

If I compare myself in a previous job where I was sold out in an IT consulting role at $1,800 / day + GST (my market worth?)
and then I write software for AP for the love of it. Is the same comparison valid for 'togs?

The Deputy Photographic Editor of our local daily newspaper did an engagement I attended last year for $0 (it was close fiends).
Does that devalue photography or was he just helping out friends?

In fact I'm going to shoot at a 50th on Sat for $0 - just for friends.

[zollo]

Pretty easy work with no PP. Money for jam really.

Depends on your interpretation of easy. 8 hours straight of shooting with what would probably be tough lighting and a tough crowd (after the ) is not as easy as it sounds. but its easier than shovelling for 8 hours I spose

[zollo]

Its weird when you think about it, esp. the devaluation arguments that have been had before
and as I suspect this is a non-profit outfit.

If I compare myself in a previous job where I was sold out in an IT consulting role at $1,800 / day + GST (my market worth?)
and then I write software for AP for the love of it. Is the same comparison valid for 'togs?

The Deputy Photographic Editor of our local daily newspaper did an engagement I attended last year for $0 (it was close fiends).
Does that devalue photography or was he just helping out friends?

In fact I'm going to shoot at a 50th on Sat for $0 - just for friends.

I say it comes down to whether its your job or a hobby. I installed my own home theatre because i"m an enthusiast, doesnt mean installers are going to charge less.

[Xenedis]

I'd be charging in the vicinity of $3K+, which I don't consider unreasonable for this sort of gig.

An awards night is something I'd consider a demanding and tiring job.

A photographer doing this job would be constantly moving, rarely sitting or resting, would have to be watching the action, shooting in low light, shooting people moving in low light, and shooting people who aren't necessarily going to stay still while he gets his shots.

I wouldn't be handing over unprocessed images either, so there'd be time involved in that.

I have charged four figures for two hours of my time, and the right to use the images in any way the client wants for the promotion/marketing of the business.

[Longshots]

I'd be charging in the vicinity of $3K+, which I don't consider unreasonable for this sort of gig.

An awards night is something I'd consider a demanding and tiring job.

A photographer doing this job would be constantly moving, rarely sitting or resting, would have to be watching the action, shooting in low light, shooting people moving in low light, and shooting people who aren't necessarily going to stay still while he gets his shots.

I wouldn't be handing over unprocessed images either, so there'd be time involved in that.

I have charged four figures for two hours of my time, and the right to use the images in any way the client wants for the promotion/marketing of the business.

I'd agree with everything you just said.

Not that it matters too much - but a bit of a maths problem here - shooting from starting from 5pm to finish at 1am is actually seven hours work and not eight.

[Xenedis]

I'd agree with everything you just said.

Not that it matters too much - but a bit of a maths problem here - shooting from starting from 5pm to finish at 1am is actually seven hours work and not eight.

5pm to 1am is eight hours by my count.

[jasevk]

Adds up to an 8hr job to me....

[Longshots]

good job I'm not doing maths today - yep its 8 hours - doh

[Xenedis]

good job I'm not doing maths today

Yeah, you're clearly one of the three kinds of people in the world: those who can count, and those who cannot. ;-)

[Erin]

$1000 since there's no PP to be done. If there was, $2000, easy.

[Dan Cripps]

Wouldn't shoot it for under $2K.

[Steve Axford]

Sounds like a lot of work to me. I guess it depends how desperate you are, but if you don't have to have the job, then at least 2k would be bearable (just).

[Art Vandelay]

It's interesting to see the 'value' of a photographer vs what people would expect to pay a tradesman to come to your house, with his tools and experience and spend the same amount of time doing a job.

[jasevk]

I'm really blown away at some of the indicative prices here considering we're talking about 8hrs shooting, burning a DVD and job done.... 2k is talking $250 an hr!!! I'm not sure my dentist is even that expensive.... i know all images are being handed over for full use but IMO the job doesn't call for nearly as much creativity as say a wedding!

[kiwi]

What would I charge?
What would the market stand?
Supply and Demand!

$1k ... $2k is realistic for the skills, gear and time; but it's probably a non-profit outfit - so that complicates it.
You are losing © in effect by supplying DVD with JPEGs.

As for no processing, I would at least run them through Lightoom, kill the duds and make sure the rest are 'good' or better.

Yeah, its a commercial organisation, not NFP

[jasevk]

And whoever said 3 grand is asking for 375 an hr! How much value are you putting on the relatively non artistic high res images??

[Xenedis]

And whoever said 3 grand is asking for 375 an hr! How much value are you putting on the relatively non artistic high res images??

How much value does anyone put on images?

That varies depending on who wants the images, and why.

I place more value on images captured by someone who knows what (s)he's doing during a challenging and lengthy shoot than the sort of person who'd pay Aunty June $200 for the night to shoot the event with her new DSLR and kit lens.

BTW, I was paid much more per hour (when broken down into the time I spent vs. the money I was paid) for a job I did last year. And I didn't charge anywhere near as much as another photographer asked.

It's not just a photographer's time for which a client pays.

[kiwi]

Yip, you should be taking into account your expenses (accounting, legal, insurance, memberships, training, books, camera depreciation etc) of course.....

[jasevk]

How much value does anyone put on images?

That varies depending on who wants the images, and why.

I place more value on images captured by someone who knows what (s)he's doing during a challenging and lengthy shoot than the sort of person who'd pay Aunty June $200 for the night to shoot the event with her new DSLR and kit lens.

BTW, I was paid much more per hour (when broken down into the time I spent vs. the money I was paid) for a job I did last year. And I didn't charge anywhere near as much as another photographer asked.

It's not just a photographer's time for which a client pays.

I understand this... but let's put this in context.

The client requires no editing or touching up, and the images would more than likely not be used for anything more than an internally distributed company newsletter.... If I had the gall to charge 3k for that I could never complain about the cost of a tooth removal again!

Now if the pics were being used as marketing material then that's a different story and 3k is looking more ideal. But surely you'd agree that a company awards dinner is almost a 'happy snap' job in a sense?

[Xenedis]

Now if the pics were being used as marketing material then that's a different story and 3k is looking more ideal. But surely you'd agree that a company awards dinner is almost a 'happy snap' job in a sense?

Hire Aunty June then. |-)