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    A browser that bypasses censors

    If not for the Censorship issue, at least try it for it's speed.

    I have just retired Firefox
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    The more I learn the less I know !

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    What browser are you talking about?

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    yeah, it would be good to know what you are actually talking about
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    Sorry guys ... got so exited that I forgot to add the name

    It's a golden oldy called 'Opera'. I'm sure there are a few Internet die hards that have used this before.

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    The new version of Opera is fast, in fact it is advertised as the world's fastest browser and it certainly is speedy. I have been using it a bit of late. but still like my firefox

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    Opera is very fast and buggy.
    Proof: Why does opera always show the SAME 4 site adverts? Every other browser gets random one (clue: Opera's caching is too aggressive)

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    Opera caching is highly configurable. You may want the following settings :
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    I have used Opera many times over the years, but not any of the latest versions. I retired IE about 2-3 years back when Chrome was developed and have used it solely since. It is pretty fast to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milspec View Post
    Opera caching is highly configurable. You may want the following settings :
    So is Firefox, but the problem happens the 1st time your hit the page, ie. after a clear cache??
    Just changed the setting and the 4 adv. problem is still there

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    I use it sometimes but still prefer Safari!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kym View Post
    Opera is very fast and buggy.
    Proof: Why does opera always show the SAME 4 site adverts? Every other browser gets random one (clue: Opera's caching is too aggressive)
    Why would I want to see the adverts?

    I keep getting different adds so not sure what your problems are

    It aint buggy - websites are buggy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD90 View Post
    Why would I want to see the adverts?

    I keep getting different adds so not sure what your problems are

    It aint buggy - websites are buggy.
    Ok, now if it does that on AP, what happens when you visit another site and what it shows is not the same as other browsers and this causes you a big issue for some reason? It may just be the ads on AP, but what if it is important information on another site, and your failure to be able to see it cause of your browsers operational methods, causes you financial loss, for example? Don't get me wrong, I like Opera, I just don't trust it to display all required elements on a website (as all other browsers seem to manage).
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    Re: The Advert problem.
    The underlying concern is that I can't trust Opera to render what was intended. That's way uncool.
    Speed be damned if you don't see what was supposed to be there.
    The advert code is very standard; it works IE6,7,8, Firefox 1.5+, Google Chrome, and Safari. Opera is too smart for its own good.

    Quote Originally Posted by JD90 View Post
    Why would I want to see the adverts?
    To click through and support AP of course
    I keep getting different adds so not sure what your problems are
    Your are supposed to see a random add in each slot. Opera shows the same Adv. 4 times on each page.
    It aint buggy - websites are buggy.
    It has a bug. Look at the HTML code we serve up.

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    Don't want to start a browser war but IE has not been compliant with html standards over time. MS decided to do their own thing. Websites code/ed their pages to work with IE because it was/is the dominant browser. Opera has always strived to be compliant with HTML standards.
    This why FF et al have reached market acceptance - they conform to MS pseudo-standards.

    If it is rendering the page incorrectly, let them know, simple!

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    I constantly and consistently get the same 4 Ad Banners in Firefox.
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    thats interesting mark... apparently its not supposed to do that


    oh, i have been using opera for quite a while now... i love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkChap View Post
    I constantly and consistently get the same 4 Ad Banners in Firefox.
    That is very weird. Try the standard clean up/fix up... http://www.ausphotography.net.au/for...ad.php?t=49184

    Which version?
    What plugins? Esp. any no script or similar.
    The ads come from some very simple DHTML/Javascript.

    Just to illustrate ...

    Capture.PNG

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    Latest Version Kym
    Plug Ins - Exif viewer, dictionary, not much really

    Had 3 times the Scorpian add, although they were on different cycles, just prior to entering this thread

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    curiouser and curiouser....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkChap View Post
    Latest Version Kym
    Plug Ins - Exif viewer, dictionary, not much really

    Had 3 times the Scorpian add, although they were on different cycles, just prior to entering this thread
    Ok, you MAY get 4 at a time, or 3 or two, or two pairs of two. It is genuinely random.

    But Opera (this thread) always shows the same 4 ads on a given page.
    Another 4 the same on the next page and so forth.

    Technical analysis:

    As far as I can tell Opera either has a bug in its Javascript engine (least likely) or it caching (most likely).
    The same script is served to all browsers.
    For some reason the DHTML iframe for the advert is cached and it does no re-invoke the iframe src url to get another one.
    http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_iframe_src.asp

    To see the code in question do a View Source and look for <!-- Start Easy Ad-Manager Code -->
    Which is in the code twice, one at the top and once at the bottom.

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    More reaseach: Yes its a bug. http://bytes.com/topic/html-css/answ...refresh-iframe
    Which means I have to change things for a Opera workaround - bugga!

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