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    Cool What can l take a photo of?

    I am new to the wonderful world of taking photos.

    I was just wondering what l can take a photo of.

    Can l take a photo of people at a cafe?

    People at the beach?

    Someones home? etc, etc.

    john

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    You cannot take photos on private property (cafe's are private property), without the owner of the property giving permission. This is if you are on the private property. You can take photos if you are standing on public land (ie beaches), but be aware that photographing children on a public beach, whilst not illegal, will often result in you being confronted about your reasons for taking the photos.

    Also be aware that some open spaces that the public can access are not public land. For instance the plaza outside some buildings is private land, not public land.
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    welcome John. It is a wonderful world indeed. You might have to be very careful/cautious in taking "strangers" photos. Unless you have a very long lens on, you may or should ask their permission first. The beach is a tricky one though.....I was recently on the promenade at Manly and I didn`t feel comfortable at all to even get the camera out. I guess it just depends where you are, how many people are around at the time, etc etc. I`m sure other more seasoned togs will give better advice than I. Anyway, enjoy and have a great time.
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    G'Day & Welcome - post some images and have fun!

    Maybe have a look at the New to Photography forum and the Learning Plan.

    Read this as well http://www.ausphotography.net.au/for...ad.php?t=24730
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    There are plenty of things to photograph outside of street scapes. If you keep away from beaches especially you should be just fine, the shooting of children's sports etc. is also contentious.
    If you get permission from someone to photograph in their home that is quite OK....aside from that there are literally thousands of places to take landscapes, best times are early morning or late afternoon.
    Family members for portrait shots can be good if you can get the light right, family pets are also good. Flowers and insects are also popular on AP if you are into macro photography, other than that architecture and adult amateur sports are also options....lots to think about
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    Thanks guys for all the advice.

    I also feel uncomfortable bringing the camera out at the beach.

    I never thought l would like to take shots of flowers but some of the colours are wonderful.

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    Hi John. I noticed that you live in Black Rock. Why not travel down around Aspendale beach, there are some great rocks down there. If you head down just before sunset I'm sure you will find a great coast line to shoot. Remember that some of these rocks can be used to add foreground into your shots.
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    Hi Peter,

    Sounds like a good idea.

    Cheers john

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    I was at a social picnic in a large park in Sydney with people I knew. Everyone was happy for me to wander around taking shots of them relaxing and having a good time. When my group started a game of cricket I slipped on my long telephoto lens and shot away at people bowling, batting etc. It was all good until I was suddenly confronted by a very angry woman from another group picnicing nearby accusing me of photographing her group, in particular her children. In all honesty I had not noticed her group in the background, and in any case they were all out of focus.
    This woman went right off demanding to see what photos I had taken of her group. I duly showed her my images pointing out the fact that any you could see of her group in the background were way out of focus. I politely explained to her that I was only taking shots of my friends and apologised if she thought I was focused on her group. She was not satisfied accusing me of being able to doctor the images to make them clearer and posting them on the internet. This woman was severely paranoid. She demanded that I erase all my images taken that day. I refused to do that but did delete all that had her group in the background.
    Not satisfied with my deleting some of my images she took off back to her group then went to report me to the park rangers.
    When the rangers arrived she again started this tirade of abuse at me demanding they order me to delete all of my images. I showed the rangers what I had taken, explained what I had deleted, and they were quite happy with what I had on the camera and were also quite happy for me to continue taking shots of my friends. One ranger pulled me aside and apologised and suggested that I not point the camera in her direction agreeing with me the woman was far too paranoid.
    In the end her group moved, we stayed but the whole incident left a bad taste in my mouth and I do not take my gear, or any shots, in public places where kids maybe about.
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    Hello John,

    Well after reading your picnic drama, l don't think l will be getting my camera out at a busy park.
    She sounded like a very paranoid person that's for sure.

    Maybe next time if you are going to take photos in a busy park it might be best to have your back
    to other groups while taking photos of your group.....just a thought.

    cheers john

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    These sorts of incidents do happen, a bit like car crashes, but dont let it put you off driving, just be careful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricktas View Post
    You cannot take photos on private property, without the owner of the property giving permission.
    Sure you can, they may ask you to stop though. My policy is always towards getting the shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozwebfx View Post
    Sure you can, they may ask you to stop though. My policy is always towards getting the shot
    Umm. No you cannot. Legally you need the permission of the property owner to photograph whilst standing on their land. Not only could they demand you leave, but also have you charged with trespass, and possibly invasion of privacy, depending on what you photographed whilst on their property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricktas View Post
    Umm. No you cannot.

    I'm positive you can!

    see: http://www.4020.net/words/photorights.php#pland

    "What if you take photos of a private space, publish them, and are then contacted (threatened?) by the property owner, claiming you have no right to display or sell images of their land? Frankly, ignore them. They may be able to restrict you while the photos are being taken, but they cannot do anything once the images have been captured"

    Obviously it's not a great way to win friends & infuence people but if I really saw something that I wanted to capture my first reaction would be to shoot first & ask questions later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozwebfx View Post
    I'm positive you can!

    see: http://www.4020.net/words/photorights.php#pland

    "What if you take photos of a private space, publish them, and are then contacted (threatened?) by the property owner, claiming you have no right to display or sell images of their land? Frankly, ignore them. They may be able to restrict you while the photos are being taken, but they cannot do anything once the images have been captured"

    Obviously it's not a great way to win friends & infuence people but if I really saw something that I wanted to capture my first reaction would be to shoot first & ask questions later.
    There is a difference between taking photos OF a private space, than taking photos while ON private property. You are comparing two different issues, which my first post in this thread details.

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    I think we need to clear this up, with the example you gave as a Cafe .. imagine sitting in a cafe .. you see a fabulous shot .. you take the shot ... you haven't asked permission .. where is it detailed in Law that you had no right to take that shot?

    Surely the worst that can happen is that you may be asked to leave if the cafe owner is unhappy with the shot being taken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozwebfx View Post
    I think we need to clear this up, with the example you gave as a Cafe .. imagine sitting in a cafe .. you see a fabulous shot .. you take the shot ... you haven't asked permission .. where is it detailed in Law that you had no right to take that shot?

    Surely the worst that can happen is that you may be asked to leave if the cafe owner is unhappy with the shot being taken?
    No that is not the worst that can happen. Why do you think the Papparazzi never sneak onto Nicole Kidman's property to take photos, rather they stay on public land and use long lenses. Cause they can be taken to court if they do.

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    I think you are confusing 2 different things, if I had sneaked into the cafe without permission I would be in trouble of course!

    It's a good idea to discuss these various scenarios but it's no substitute for the Law and until I am shown where that Law is then I hold my current view.

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    You are correct in most cases. Most Cafe's would not care if you took a photo on their premises, but if one did, they have a legal right to stop you using that photo or publishing it.

    You are most welcome to test it in court, I have, and we won. We forced a publishing house to destroy over 10,000 copies of a book that had not been sold, and ensured any reprint did not contain the photo that was our concern and we got a nice little cheque from the photographer and publishing house as well. So if you want a legal example, I have one for you. All because a photographer entered private property and took a photo, and then published it without the permission of the property owner.

    So go ahead and do your own thing, but I hope you have plenty of legal indemnity insurance.
    Last edited by ricktas; 07-04-2010 at 6:39pm.

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    Yes, I would be interested in seeing your legal example. Was that a case of illegal entry in the first instance? Maybe the laws differ from State to State anyway?

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