Paul C Buff Einstein units

**nick351** · 09-02-2010, 11:21pm

Looking to hear any members thoughts on these units to be released soon, I've used an alien bee 1600 and 800. How would the einsteins compare?

Thanks in advance

**DAdeGroot** · 09-02-2010, 11:25pm

Apparently more powerful than the 1600's and more importantly, consistent colour temperature across all power settings (or at least a lot more consistent than the AB 1600 and 800).

**nick351** · 09-02-2010, 11:47pm

Not too much more expensive than the AB's too, considering taking the plunge on one to start with.

**jjphoto** · 10-02-2010, 12:14am

There's a long thread on FM with much input from Paul Buff here;

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/835412

There's lots of info about the units on the Buff (Alien Bees) web site too;

http://www.paulcbuff.com/pcb2009/einstein.html

I've been following these units for quite a while as I think they will suit my needs quite well and I've been considering getting some when they are available. They have shorter flash durations than the AB1600's but with the same power. They will also run on the Vagabond II batt packs which are 110volt (not 240v) as the Einsteins operate from 95-265VAC.

JJ

**ehor** · 10-02-2010, 10:25am

Originally Posted by DAdeGroot

Apparently more powerful than the 1600's and more importantly, consistent colour temperature across all power settings (or at least a lot more consistent than the AB 1600 and 800).

Same power. 640ws

Don't forget to factor in price of modifiers etc as well when buying. Go the Large foldable softbox at a minimum size wise.

**fhphoto** · 19-02-2010, 1:12am

but the question is....how long can you wait?

**ehor** · 22-02-2010, 1:00pm

Originally Posted by fhphoto

but the question is....how long can you wait?

Not long enough.
I just bought a set of Ranger RX's

**DavidG** · 23-02-2010, 11:28am

Originally Posted by fhphoto

but the question is....how long can you wait?

This was recently posted ....

http://www.paulcbuff.com/einstein/preorder.html

and so I'd expect atleast the end of March now ... some folks on other forums are saying even a couple of months longer ...

Ive got 2 on order and considering I made a decesion to buy based on an release date of January 2010 ... Was hoping to use on a shoot scheduled for the 27th of March ....

I have other stuff that will do the job, but considering this is my first foreray into this kind of product Im just sitting tight ... will see what happens ... Ranger RX's are certainly an option ...

**ehor** · 23-02-2010, 11:37am

Ranger RX's are great

**DavidG** · 23-02-2010, 12:43pm

Originally Posted by ehor

Ranger RX's are great

I hear you ...

Will see how long my patience will last

**ehor** · 23-02-2010, 12:46pm

Originally Posted by DavidG

I hear you ...

Will see how long my patience will last

But the price difference is pretty big LOL.

**DavidG** · 23-02-2010, 2:02pm

Originally Posted by ehor

But the price difference is pretty big LOL.

$800 - $1000 difference ??

**ehor** · 23-02-2010, 2:14pm

Cheapest is $2295.
So about $1700 difference.
Then you've got the price of modifiers on top of that.

Maybe it's worth the wait after all

**DavidG** · 24-02-2010, 10:48am

Originally Posted by ehor

Cheapest is $2295.
So about $1700 difference.
Then you've got the price of modifiers on top of that.

Maybe it's worth the wait after all

I was thinking of 2 einsteins and a vagabond II power pack ... that would cost about $1750 .... v's ELINCHROM RANGER RX S SET at $2295 ... if the Einsteins delivery colour consistancy with the additionan 240ws then its makes for a very interesting comparison ... just when is the question ...

**ehor** · 24-02-2010, 10:52am

The Ranger RX will pump 1100ws through that single head

**jjphoto** · 24-02-2010, 11:09am

Echor, did you buy local or from OS? They are potentially cheaper from B+H or Adorama but I haven't looked into it too deeply. Have you?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=364094&is=REG

or

http://www.kayellaustralia.com.au/is...EC12334B845FAA

JJ

**ehor** · 24-02-2010, 11:15am

I bought mine local. Yeah BH is cheaper but then you have shipping and GST and customs fee ontop.

**DavidG** · 24-02-2010, 2:40pm

Originally Posted by ehor

The Ranger RX will pump 1100ws through that single head

Didnt know that .... hmmm thanks ...

**ehor** · 24-02-2010, 3:30pm

Ranger Quadra's are 400ws but only $1800 for an A head (action head). About 1 stop less than the einsteins BUT it has built in skyports so you can adjust power remotely. Also has LED "day light balanced" modelling lamps

**DavidG** · 25-02-2010, 11:38am

Originally Posted by ehor

Ranger Quadra's are 400ws but only $1800 for an A head (action head). About 1 stop less than the einsteins BUT it has built in skyports so you can adjust power remotely. Also has LED "day light balanced" modelling lamps

You make a convincing arguement Ed

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