Where are all film shooters in this forum? The 'No pixel challenge' has become dormant again!
Bring some life to it by posting your pictures!
Where are all film shooters in this forum? The 'No pixel challenge' has become dormant again!
Bring some life to it by posting your pictures!
Nikon D700 in all it's glory!
A sign of the times!
I was in at Vanbar's the other week, and had a quick peek at their film stock levels.
The fridge is located near the tripod section, and seriously, they'd have had maybe a few doz rolls of whatever brand/type/poison in about three of four rows.
Barely 50-100 rolls in all, in a fridge that takes up far too much floor space that could be better utilized selling stuff that actually sells!
Let us frolic in our film section without crap like that please.
As I've said before, active film shooters have no motivation to post in a film challenge because they are shooting nothing else.
So!!.. by extension of that philosophy.. active digital photography shooters, shouldn't have the motivation to participate in most challenges(as the default process nowadays is via digital) because they shoot nothing else too?
I can't see a reason to make any distinction between the two formats.
That kind of logic doesn't make sense to me.
There are a few active film enthusiasts here on AP that shoot film regularly.
Maybe? half a dozen members out of 1,541 that visited the site since 2010-01-01.
I'm guessing that 20% or more of the 1,541 used film seriously at some time in there lives. Lets say 300.
So 6 of 300 is 2% which roughly corresponds to industry numbers about the film market today compared to where it was in the 90's (actually more like < 1%).
This is the digital age.
regards, Kym Gallery Honest & Direct Constructive Critique Appreciated! ©
Digital & film, Bits of glass covering 10mm to 500mm, and other stuff
rightly said kym, close this section
Why?
Are you offended by it?
Is there any potential for it to cause some kind of backlash?
Over reaction is not the answer... participation is.
There's no reason to close any section/thread/topic unless there is a potential to cause an adverse affect on the members, or the site's future
No, there are enthusiasts as yourself, and we're more than happy for the Film forum.
Its just the the OP is asking where are all the film people and all I'm showing is that there are not many.
Film is a small (but interesting) niche.
However the vast majority of members will never use film (from now on).
Its not a put down - just being a realist - don't expect most people to get into your interest.
Agree film is a bit of a niche thing now - i'd like to try it once or twice more as an experiment on my settings on camera more than the effect on film - time wise at the present i don't have the time (in any sense of development wise) really to do it - also our only film camera isnt really in one piece
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Cat (aka Cathy) - Another Canon user - 400D, 18-55,75-300mm Kit Lens,50mm f1.8, Tamron 90mm f2.8 Macro, Sigma 28-70 f2.8-4 DG, Tripod and a willingness to learn
Software used: PhotoImpact, Irfanview and a lot of plugins
We don't make a photograph just with a camera, we bring to the act of photography all the books we have read, the movies we have seen, the music we have heard, the people we have loved. - Ansel Adams
Kryzs, take it on the chin mate. They keep on dangling the bait and you keep on biting. Each time you bite, you are only making yourself look worse.
But, that being said, I don't really think the wind up was necessary. Yes We are all very much aware that 99.9% of photographers will now never shoot a roll of film ever (again). It keeps on being drummed into us time and time again.
But, there are some that do and having a section here means that we should be made feel welcome, not like we are some freaks who live in the 19th century.
Anyhow, back to the original topic. I have one roll of Fuji 400H that I have to pick up from the lab (includes neg scans). I have 3 rolls of B&W sitting in the cupboard that need developing and then printing (I don't neg scan B&W. I find for online display, print scans are much better. Plus, I'd rather be printing then scanning). Once I get some of these files, I'll make sure I post them.
I got about 90 shots over the last 2 months. I know that doesn't seem much but the keeper rates are well above my digital ones.
I'm still waiting on my V700 which'll come this month so that's why I'm not posting.
Anyways.. who gives what medium you use. What does it matter?
Seriously... do whatever makes you happy.
Nikon FX + m43
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@Hoffy
I agree. But I should make a few things clear.
The point is that we (AP management) do welcome and enjoy film shooters and their work.
But when it becomes either a 'martyr' or 'superiority' issue ("film is 'real' photography") and
other sentiments then getting upset when the number of film enthusiasts is low,
or ignored, or not supported, or no "ooo ah Glenn McGrath" reactions by most members
it all gets a bit thin.
When comments like "Sadly the 'candid' section is central for baby photos" and
other put down are published we (the mods) have a gutfull.
Another thing we had to kill was the hi-jacking of new members asking which DSLR they
should get by comments like "use film via a Nikon F8", and "get a rangefinder" etc.
Totally irrelevant and not helpful in this age.
Like ANY genre - people should get out and shoot, process and publish;
and above all enjoy it and have fun.
Some people like wildlife/birds, others landscape, others people etc.
Some genre's rock people's boat, other don't - so what!
In the AP is here to support all forms of photography. No one is exclusive.
Personally: I know you shoot both film and digital; and you enjoy both
and do a pretty fine job in several genres.
I have significant interest in your work because it has a certain style,
and its always welcome here on AP.
I was only trying to motivate people to post their shots in the challenge... I didn't have any ill intentions!
Don't take it to heart SF.
You did nothing wrong other than to rally some support for a format that may soon be gone.
Nothing wrong with that, and my comment was only meant as a factual footnote.. and definitely not as a form of belittlement of film or its proponents.
The fact remains that of the currently active members, you'd be hard pressed to find more than 1% of them shooting film.
Taking into account some of them may be busy with other aspects of life, and how the convenience of digital is just so overwhelming, so why would they bother to go back to film again.. etc, etc....
it was never going to be a hive of activity.. it's still going to be interesting to see the results tho.
May soon be gone? Tell that to the folks shooting super 8 cine or wet plate photographers.
I still find nothing but negativity in your post, best keep that out of this section. Out of respect perhaps? Since you're doing a good job of making that last 1% feel unwelcome.
I'm off to go party with the 38,000 odd members of APUG.
and when he passes on to the darkroom in the sky.. it's basically all over red rover
I think it's all too easy to mis-read people's intentions. Even if I were still actively shooting film today, my opinion of the stuff would still be the same, and my comments would still be the same. Non negative, and more accurately described as .... pragmatic.... I still find nothing but negativity in your post, best keep that out of this section. Out of respect perhaps? Since you're doing a good job of making that last 1% feel unwelcome.
Enjoy!... I'm off to go party with the 38,000 odd members of APUG.
"It is one thing to make a picture of what a person looks like, it is another thing to make a portrait of who they are" - Paul Caponigro
Constructive Critique of my photographs is always appreciated
Nikon, etc!
RICK
My Photography
While others may see it on its death bed (& yes, those films that are harder to process or oddball formats have gone are starting to go), I put it to you this way.
Did they stop making paint brushes and paints when photography itself started to become popular?
While there are people still happy to get their hands dirty making a picture, film and film based photography will continue to exist.
Rick, I agree with Matt. This doesn't look good, when, again at face value, you ban someone because they have mentioned another forum.
That being said, for someone like Kryzs, APUG is probably a better place to hang out then here. Me, meh....
This has nothing to do with APUG! it has to do with the attitude a member had on the site, over a long period of time and repeated warnings (and a prior temporary ban). He himself stated in a thread that he happily baits members, and we got sick of it. The mods and I all discussed this before he was banned. This was not taken lightly and is not an isolated response to this thread. This ban was a response to long ongoing issues, many of which are not visible to members.