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    I was wondering what programs you guys use for sharpening.
    I've heard that the one inside lightroom 2 is not the best.

    I do not have photoshop and do all my pp in lightroom. Are there any 3rd party programs or plugins which do a better job than lightroom itself?

    I could get photoshop, but do not really feel the need as there are so many options in lightroom 2 already and probably more coming in lighrtoom 3 anyway.


    Thanks!



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    I don't use lightroom but apply minimal sharpening in Aperture, which should be similar to LR. I wouldn't have thought you would need a separate sharpening program. If I want differential sharpening (eg eyes only) I would use photoshop. Elements would be a cheaper alternative, would give you layer masks etc for other PP effects
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    Lots of information about this in our Tutorials Forum, in the sharpening tutorial : http://www.ausphotography.net.au/for...ead.php?t=8579. There are many varied ways to achieve sharpening in all the different software packages available. Do a google on "Lightroom Sharpening Preset"
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    I'm a lightroom / CS4 user and i've tried various techniques in photoshop and then compared with the LR sharpening. On quite a few occasions, I've noticed that the difference is minimal when viewing photos at web resolutions etc (eg. 800x600).

    In LR I hold down the alt key and move either or the bottom 2 sliders (radius and masking i think?) and see where the sharpening is going to be applied. I find this particularly useful as sometimes all you need is the edges sharpened a bit more and leave the rest alone.

    There are plenty of standalone products available but I'm yet to invest in them. If I was to invest in a product it would probably be the "Magic Sharp" photoshop action by Kevin Kubota...a lot of pros seem to like this and the results are pretty awesome. Jasmine Star (http://www.jasminestarblog.com/) is US based photographer that uses it, her pics are always clean and sharp. One of her recent weddings posts is a good example of this: http://www.jasminestarblog.com/index...g-cindy-jelani

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    One called Focal blade is pretty good also
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    Simple solution for LR

    Realise that the sharpening in LR is capture sharpening - read about this in Kelby's book and plenty of googling will help

    Output sharpening is then applied when you export or print - it's only after that process that the full extent of sharpening is apparent

    BEST thing you can do is download and install LR/Mogrify, it's donationware, so cheap as

    It has MUCH better USM style export sharpening that I find works really well

    Apparently (and not fully implemented in the Beta) is much better capture sharpening in LR 3
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    Thank you people.

    I guess i go with kiwis tips as i am not really able to spend much money on 3rd party stand alone applications at the moment.


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    hi,

    I now installed mogrify....

    How do i find out how much output sharpening i have to do? With or without mogrify?

    Is there any kind of preview? How do you determine what image to sharpen a lot and which ones just a little?

    What difference does it make if I wanna print it or just want to have it as a jpeg on the computer or print it later from the jpg?


    Thank you !!!!

    Edit:

    Another thing i was wondering....How do i get the best print result if i want to print some pictures in a photo shop? Should i give them the jpeg or the raw files or what is the best to save as much detail and iq as possible?

    What is your workflow to get a picture out of lightroom or photoshop and into the shop who will print the image?

    thanks again
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    You csnt preview LR/Mogrify sharpening, you have to look at the resultant JPEG and reexport if required

    You usually apply a little bit more sharpening to photos for the web, rather than printing. I dont.

    If you are going to print, fisrt crop to the print size, eg 8x10 ratio then burn a full size jpeg from within LR - I dont go through LR/Mogrify in this case

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    I use Gimp2, is free.

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