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    Post Processing Help

    Hi all,

    This Satin Bowerbird hen has a small bit of apple in its beak that to me looks blown out, but its not. I would like to darken that bit of apple, but I haven't been able to nail it doing it in PS. How would you change it using PS?
    Appreciate any advice




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    You really want to do it in PS? There's little info in that bit of image, but I would have tried it
    in the raw converter to check what you can see before 8-bit conversion.

    However, to proceed in PS, select the area in question, and at this size put a 1 pixel feathering
    on it. After that, try any of:
    - Brightness/Contrast or Exposure for overall change in luminance;
    - Auto Levels/Contrast with subsequent Levels tweak, or
    - Shadow Highlight to turn down the Highlights only with possible Mid-tone Contrast tweak;
    - Tweak the Curves command.

    The last three will give some differentiation in tone, but you may have to then de-saturate any
    induced color.
    The 2nd and third
    CC, Image editing OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameerat42 View Post
    There's little info in that bit of image
    How do I post an image AM which includes the Exif data still intact here?

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    Make sure you save it with the (camera data in the) Exif intact.

    If "Save for Web"-ing in PS, turn on option to save Exif. Not sure of other
    programs.

    In PS, I just do a "Save as..." of the jpeg that was converted from raw (with Exif intact).
    The Save as... always retains the camera data besides adding any from PS itself.

    There is nothing in the AP attachment process that removes Exif.

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    --Oh, PostScript: I see what you mean in your quote.
    I meant there was little image data in that portion of the picture.

    Apologies if it was not clear.

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    Here's the apple piece gone, but I'd rather keep the apple piece there.....just not have it so stark.

    Attachment 137510

    EDIT - Why do my attachments always muck up and not show
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by Bear Dale; 27-10-2018 at 3:50pm.

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    Go back to your Manage ATtachments, click on the asset you just uploaded and drag it to the attachments pane,
    if it is not already there. Then click Insert Inline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameerat42 View Post
    Make sure you save it with the (camera data in the) Exif intact.

    If "Save for Web"-ing in PS, turn on option to save Exif. Not sure of other
    programs.

    In PS, I just do a "Save as..." of the jpeg that was converted from raw (with Exif intact).
    The Save as... always retains the camera data besides adding any from PS itself.

    There is nothing in the AP attachment process that removes Exif.

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    --Oh, PostScript: I see what you mean in your quote.
    I meant there was little image data in that portion of the picture.

    Apologies if it was not clear.
    Hi AM, if I post a photo on other photo forums that I am a member of the exif is always there. But uploading a photo here because it has to be made less than 400k (or whatever the limit is) something or other causes the exif to be lost.

    And I always seem to have problems with 'attachments'

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameerat42 View Post
    Go back to your Manage ATtachments, click on the asset you just uploaded and drag it to the attachments pane,
    if it is not already there. Then click Insert Inline.
    WOW.....10 years on here and I've never done that before!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear Dale View Post
    ...But uploading a photo here because it has to be made less than 400k (or whatever the limit is) something or other causes the exif to be lost....

    And I always seem to have problems with 'attachments'
    Two things:
    - The first bit is now shown to be wrong, as your now successful attachment (for which you clicked "Done" instead of
    "insert Inline") is overflowing with camera data in the Exif;

    - Follow this (generally supposed to be) comprehensive guide for trouble-free attachments

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    The apple here has a RGB value of 251/253/252 - that's almost white, so if you try to darken this area you are going to get pretty much a shade of grey. (Although that might be ok...)

    Because it's just a bit of apple (and not someone's eye for example) my approach would be to try to paint in a bit of colour, like this:-

    - make a rough selection around the bit of apple (any tool - lasso, etc)
    - copy and paste (puts selected area into new layer)
    - roughly paint over the apple in the new layer (colour not too important yet)
    - add a layer mask, then adjust/paint the mask so that only the piece of apple shows through (this is the only fiddley bit). Use a blend mode temporarily that makes the apple piece easy to identify (try 'Difference'). Once you have the layer mask set up you can easily try different options very quickly
    - pick an 'apple-like' colour and paint it on the new layer
    - pick slightly lighter and darker colours and paint on with a 'speckled' brush (this will give the apple some 'texture')
    - you can then try any final adjustments (Hue/Sat, Contrast, Curves, etc) on the new layer to get the desired result without affecting the overall image

    This sounds complicated but it's actually pretty quick when you get the hang of it. The level of difficulty just depends on how easy it is to do the layer mask.

    (Quick and dirty...)
    395214ED.jpg


    Cheers.
    Last edited by fillum; 27-10-2018 at 4:10pm.
    Phil.

    Some Nikon stuff. I shoot Mirrorless and Mirrorlessless.


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    ^ But not if you differentiate the tones a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameerat42 View Post
    Two things:
    - The first bit is now shown to be wrong, as your now successful attachment (for which you clicked "Done" instead of
    "insert Inline") is overflowing with camera data in the Exif;

    - Follow this (generally supposed to be) comprehensive guide for trouble-free attachments
    Ok .....bookmarked!



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    Quote Originally Posted by fillum View Post
    The apple here has a RGB value of 251/253/252 - that's almost white, so if you try to darken this area you are going to get pretty much a shade of grey. (Although that might be ok...)

    Because it's just a bit of apple (and not someone's eye for example) my approach would be to try to paint in a bit of colour, like this:-

    - make a rough selection around the bit of apple (any tool - lasso, etc)
    - copy and paste (puts selected area into new layer)
    - roughly paint over the apple in the new layer (colour not too important yet)
    - add a layer mask, then adjust/paint the mask so that only the piece of apple shows through (this is the only fiddley bit). Use a blend mode temporarily that makes the apple piece easy to identify (try 'Difference'). Once you have the layer mask set up you can easily try different options very quickly
    - pick an 'apple-like' colour and paint it on the new layer
    - pick slightly lighter and darker colours and paint on with a 'speckled' brush (this will give the apple some 'texture')
    - you can then try any final adjustments (Hue/Sat, Contrast, Curves, etc) on the new layer to get the desired result without affecting the overall image

    This sounds complicated but it's actually pretty quick when you get the hang of it. The level of difficulty just depends on how easy it is to do the layer mask.

    (Quick and dirty...)
    395214ED.jpg


    Cheers.
    Phil, THANKS MATE for going to the trouble of that edit and the how to guide. I'll give that a go shortly, it looks really effective and the apple piece looks a whole lot better......super appreciated!

    Cheers!

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