Photoshop panoramas

**out n about** · 06-10-2015, 9:08am

Hi I have only recently purchased Lightroom and PS and are a novice especially with PS and are attempting my !st panorama in PS and would appreciate any help in what settings etc I need to use..
I have exported 7 raw files taken with D800 from lightroom into PS and left everything as it was (setting auto) and it seems to proceed quite well until I go to save and try to send it back to Lightroom. I then get a message that the file is over 2gb and cannot be saved. What am I missing? Do I need to somehow make the resultant file smaller and if so how? thanks

**Warbler** · 06-10-2015, 3:06pm

Over 2gb, the file needs to be saved as a PSB file rather than a PSD file. I gather you're trying to save it as a layered PSD. Flatten it and save it as a jpeg or tiff.

**out n about** · 06-10-2015, 5:26pm

Originally Posted by Warbler

Over 2gb, the file needs to be saved as a PSB file rather than a PSD file. I gather you're trying to save it as a layered PSD. Flatten it and save it as a jpeg or tiff.

Thanks warbler for your reply I have no idea what I am saving it as as I just press save and then ok

What do you mean flatten it? It seems as though I have a long way to go in getting a grip on PS

**Warbler** · 06-10-2015, 5:46pm

When you put together a pano in PS, you end up with a layered file. In your case 7 layers as you used 7 RAW files. If you just save, the app will try to save as a layered PSD file. The limit in size terms for a PSD file is 2gb. Go to your menu "Layer" and choose Flatten Image. That will combine all your layers into one, and considerably reduce the size of your file. You could just use the "Save As" command and save it as a JPEG image, or you could just save it as a PSB file as I said earlier. It really depends on whether you want to keep the layers or not.

**ameerat42** · 06-10-2015, 6:14pm

Outs. When you pres Save and then OK, does it not bring up a diaIf so, what is the default one?log box that gives you some file type options?
If so, what is the default file type?

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When I attempted a similar exercise with just 3 jpegs to merge I ended up with an image that was obviously a layer.
As such, I had the option to save that as a PSD or a TIF - ie, not Flattened.

When Flattened (Layers - Flatten image) I could save as almost anything. -- BUT, your file size might be an issue
if you tried to do that. Nevertheless, at one point you should see the file options you can save in.

Now, a Q: You merged full sized raw files? Do you need a stitched image that resulting size? If not, why don't you reduce the size?
For instance, if you reduced it to 25% you'd get a file 1/8th the size.

Are new to panoramas, or just to dong them in Photoshop?
Am.

**out n about** · 07-10-2015, 1:15pm

Originally Posted by ameerat42

Outs. When you pres Save and then OK, does it not bring up a diaIf so, what is the default one?log box that gives you some file type options?
If so, what is the default file type?

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When I attempted a similar exercise with just 3 jpegs to merge I ended up with an image that was obviously a layer.
As such, I had the option to save that as a PSD or a TIF - ie, not Flattened.

When Flattened (Layers - Flatten image) I could save as almost anything. -- BUT, your file size might be an issue
if you tried to do that. Nevertheless, at one point you should see the file options you can save in.

Now, a Q: You merged full sized raw files? Do you need a stitched image that resulting size? If not, why don't you reduce the size?
For instance, if you reduced it to 25% you'd get a file 1/8th the size.

Are new to panoramas, or just to dong them in Photoshop?
Am.

Thanks Am yes to both questions new to panoramas and new to photoshop as well .... twice the confusion

.... but have been playing around this morning again and have managed to save the resultant image as a jpeg, so that is progress

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Originally Posted by J.davis

If you have the latest version of LR, just use the 'photo merge' to 'panorama', and see if you like the results, could save a trip to the 'Shop".

Thanks John, I have just updated my LR and since then I can't find where it had "photomerge and "panorama".. I am sure it was there before I updated and I'm sure it would be easier for me if I didn't have to go to the shop

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Lookout Point-1.jpg

Hi just thought I would post the resultant pano for your thoughts

**Warbler** · 06-10-2015, 7:12pm

It won't be the file dimensions that are the problem. It will be the number of layers. Try it for yourself. Just get a normal jpeg image and duplicate the layer seven times and see what size the resulting PSD file is. This would be compounded even more if the seven RAW files the OP merged were in 16-bit instead of the 8-bit that a jpeg is in. When you open a RAW in CS6 and then save it, it will default to the PSD format, or one of the other larger formats if that is what you usually use. Luckily CS6 allows you to Save As jpeg even if your currently working in 16-bit, unlike CS2 where you'd need to convert to 8-bit first before it gave you jpeg as an option.

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I have a similar issue with some collages I do for sale. I might combine 5 images into an A1 collage that includes three or four groups of elements including backgrounds and textures. I have to save them as layered PSB files because of their sheer size. I also save as JPEG for the prints, but I need the layered file in case a customer wants changes. I don't like to redo them from scratch. A pano is just a particular type of collage.

**ameerat42** · 06-10-2015, 7:47pm

Well, with my (old and humble) CS2 version I still had only one layer.

**Warbler** · 06-10-2015, 8:32pm

We all had CS2 once AM.

**ameerat42** · 06-10-2015, 10:25pm

Warbs. Don't you know I live in the PAST LANE!!

**J.davis** · 06-10-2015, 11:37pm

If you have the latest version of LR, just use the 'photo merge' to 'panorama', and see if you like the results, could save a trip to the 'Shop".

**J.davis** · 07-10-2015, 2:16pm

Panorama in LR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy_HDGx3nWs

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**out n about** · 07-10-2015, 4:42pm

Originally Posted by J.davis

Panorama in LR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy_HDGx3nWs

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Thanks John I have had another look but I don't seem to have that option in Lr

I then checked to make sure I had the latest version and it says I have ... so will do some googling to find out whats happening.

**geoffsta** · 07-10-2015, 6:07pm

I don't use lightroom, I use bridge. (Which came with photoshop CC) then follow the prompts.

Bridge.JPG

**outstar79** · 07-10-2015, 7:02pm

Photoshop/lightroom panoramic modes are good but I found MsICE to be great, it's free and easily stitches mutli-rowed panoramas with ease - so easy to use, then you can open in lightroom or photoshop for editing. With the amount of times I have ended up with "boomerangs" with photoshop - I opted for ICE and it worked so much better

But each to their own, depends on what you're comfortable working with

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/.../projects/ice/

**out n about** · 08-10-2015, 10:11am

Originally Posted by outstar79

Photoshop/lightroom panoramic modes are good but I found MsICE to be great, it's free and easily stitches mutli-rowed panoramas with ease - so easy to use, then you can open in lightroom or photoshop for editing. With the amount of times I have ended up with "boomerangs" with photoshop - I opted for ICE and it worked so much better

But each to their own, depends on what you're comfortable working with

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/.../projects/ice/

Thanks Adam I will check it out to see if there is a mac version... if its easier to use all the better

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Originally Posted by geoffsta

I don't use lightroom, I use bridge. (Which came with photoshop CC) then follow the prompts.

Bridge.JPG

Thanks Geoff I will try bridge on the next pano and compare the results, I did an 11 shot pano last night on PS and it took about 45mins to complete and I wasn't real happy with the results.... the horizon was a big curve and I lost a lot of foreground... although it could be the settings I used also

**Warbler** · 08-10-2015, 11:21am

Originally Posted by out n about

I did an 11 shot pano last night on PS and it took about 45mins to complete and I wasn't real happy with the results.... the horizon was a big curve and I lost a lot of foreground... although it could be the settings I used also

Yes, it IS the settings you're using. Using Auto will do that. Try using the setting second from the bottom which I think from memory is called collate or something similar. I can't check because I'm running a batch edit at the moment, and I don't want to interrupt it. Applying the lens correction options in your settings at the moment is what is curving your horizons. Same for the bloke above who is referring to "boomerangs". If I can find my laptop, I'll have a look on it for you.

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Here it is. It's called Collage. Check the box for "Blend Images Together". Try that, and if you want to speed it up, try opening your RAW files in 8-bit instead of 16-bit.

**ameerat42** · 07-10-2015, 9:24pm

Same here, Adam.

**geoffsta** · 07-10-2015, 10:16pm

I suggest MSice for those that don't have, or have limited experience with PS or Adobe product. And have it on an older laptop because of the less drain on resources.

**taztek** · 07-10-2015, 11:15pm

Do you have this menu path in Lr...

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