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If you do stay longer next time, then I suggest that use the two cameras through their basic MENUS that you would need to use to make photos - AND - also use the knobs and buttons that you would need to use to make Photographs.Originally Posted by MissNarniee
Often one MENU system and one Functions LAYOUT (of buttons and dials) is more intuitive and more easily understood that the other.
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For a small budget think of using an up-market compact that has manual controls.
We have compact shooters in our camera club who win competitions.
A DSLR is a very powerful tool, but 80% can be done with a good compact camera.
If you're just starting having a good compact will be more than enough, and you then can save for a DSLR if you really need the extra capabilities.
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Is there a big difference between cameras like the D3200 and the D5200? I cant see much difference besides the flip out view finder (which i really like)
There ae some key differences like in camera HDR processing and also a lot more autofocus points on the D5200.
Have a look here, and the point they make up front, "Bottom line though is that you will not be making a bad decision with either of these cameras..." is very true.
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Yeah, there are some differences that you can't see, but may find can help with print quality(eventually).
D5200 has the ability to shoot in 14bit raw mode.
This is probably one of the most important extra feature advantages that the 5200 has over the 3200 model.
Not often talked about, but 14bit raw files(as long as you shoot in raw mode .. and not jpg!!) allows you a bit more leeway to process any image to a better quality output.
I'm sure there are many resources online that can explain the differences in final output that the two modes can offer.
Other features are the obvious flippy screen(could be handy) as you already noted.
... but again there are more hidden features such as faster continuous frame rate advance 5 frames per second vs 4 frames per second.
D5200 also allows you to use another continuous mode called Continuous Low, where you can select the fastest advance rate .. ie. 2 or 3 or 4fps instead. (can be handy) .. D3200 does have that, so you're either at 4fps or single shot.
Other hidden advantages are that the AF and metering system in the 5200 is more advanced.
Theoretically(and probably) the D5200 will meter more accurately as well as focus more accurately/faster .. and allow you to choose one of many more points in the viewfinder. (11 points on the 3200 and 39 points on the 5200)
This doesn't mean that you can't get good pictures with the D3200 tho .. of course you can.
it's just that the 5200 has some more advanced ability for those times when the 3200 may struggle a bit.
Also I noticed that the D3200 doesn't mention face tracking in it's AF ability, but be weary of such features in a DSLR. To use face tracking on a DSLR means that you need to switch to liveview mode.
Doing this obviously gives you face tracking ability .. but the focus performance is painfully slow in live view mode.
Can be handy, but be aware of that 'gotcha'!
The other advantage of any major noteworthiness is that the video ability of the 5200 is a bit better than the 3200.
The major difference is that the 5200 allows HD capture at 60 frames per sec .. which is basically a good way to do slow motion video(if you find that sort of thing interesting).
You may think .. video!.. pfft! .. but you wouldn't be the first person to find an interest in macro imagery .. and then migrate to macro video capture .. and then find that 60fps isn't the dud feature you may have originally thought it was
remember the point of the exercise in getting your first advanced camera is to balance it's features with it's cost.
Of course we know nothing of you(this isn't important for you to elaborate on .. as long as you know yourself how deep do you expect to get into it) nor your interests ... and hence inherent desires in following through with something like a hobby.
Although .. (again) if you do catch the bug, you're not going to be the first person in history to start off with a $500 camera, and find yourself with a $3500 camera after a few years! (not to mention the thousands of dollars worth of lenses you think you need!)
Nikon D800E, D300, D70s
{Nikon}; -> 50/1.2 : 500/8 : 105/2.8VR Micro : 180/2.8 ais : 105mm f/1.8 ais : 24mm/2 ais
{Sigma}; ->10-20/4-5.6 : 50/1.4 : 12-24/4.5-5.6II : 150-600mm|S
{Tamron}; -> 17-50/2.8 : 28-75/2.8 : 70-200/2.8 : 300/2.8 SP MF : 24-70/2.8VC
{Yongnuo}; -> YN35/2N : YN50/1.8N
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Haha and here i was, thinking that i could treat myself to a nice camera set up and go out bush and walking and it be a relatively cheap hobby... NAWTTTT - i reckon there will be a never ending wish list
Ah well, birthdays and Christmas' will be easy to buy for me then hehe!!
I was using the two Nikons as a example but at the moment the D5200 is the one i have my eye on, currently. Do yous know if there is anything else around that price and specs that i should be looking at too?
Thanks so much for being patient and sooo helpful guys! Been such a big help and i actually have an idea on where to start now!!
Just emailed a photography place not far from me and asked about their lessons (sounds good?! might do one when i get my camera) and they also offer laybys and will help me pick a set up, then when i pick it up they actually sit down and go through the settings etc with me - sounds like awesome customer service, might have a look on the weekend.
Haha and here i was, thinking that i could treat myself to a nice camera set up and go out bush and walking and it be a relatively cheap hobby... NAWTTTT - i reckon there will be a never ending wish list
Ah well, birthdays and Christmas' will be easy to buy for me then hehe!!just wait until you start printing and framing as well
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Also photoshop? whats good for beginners, please?
Thinking maybe Adobe Elements?
Well, I feel like a politician, I've said the following so many times recently!!!...
Get this free CS2 (Photoshop 9) and install it.
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/36...oshop-cs2.html
BE CAREFUL you don't install Google Chrome as your default browser - or any other such stuff - along the way.
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Oh its free?!
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No worries. Here's a general reminder about it.
This thread here.
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Superzooms are great, but they compromise on image quality. Remember a sales person is just that..he/she wants to sell stuff. Perhaps the tamron has been on the shelf for a while and they want to get rid of it? His boss might have said, if you can move that stock you get an extra 10% commission. Never listen to a salesperson.. get your information from people have have no vested interest in selling something, but have the knowledge to guide you with accurate information.
"It is one thing to make a picture of what a person looks like, it is another thing to make a portrait of who they are" - Paul Caponigro
Constructive Critique of my photographs is always appreciated
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A good site I find for comparing 2 cameras head to head is http://snapsort.com/compare
Just put in the 2 cameras you want to compare, and it lists all their features side by side
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"Life is like a camera! Focus on what is important, capture the good times, develop from the negatives, and if things don't work out take another shot."
You will often find that with a bit of haggling the purchase price of the BODY + 18 to 55 "kit lens" is only a few dollars more than the purchase price pf the "Body Only".
The "Kit Lens" will indeed allow you to learn a lot about The Craft.
I would suggest that you follow this first inclination that voiced on 13 Feb. here:
that is to say I still advise that you choose a camera body that you feel comfortable with and then set about to get the best deal with an 18 to 55 kit lens and get out and start learning.
The reality is: you won't really know what you want (or need) until you learn more and you cannot learn much more without a camera in your hand making pictures.
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Thanks guys, makes sense
Ahh thank goodness for forums like thisso helpful.
Argh, someone in one of my threads pointed out another site that seems to have better detail on the cameras, and I found that some details are better recorded on this other site: http://www.imaging-resource.com/camera-reviews
I've just recently jumped into DLSR photography, and went through this exact same thing.
I ended up settling on the d5200, as it had the best features but was still at a low price with the 18-55 kit lens. That lens has been great to learn on, and has a really wide range that kind of allows you to experiment a little, but still taking quite solid photos.
I also went through this same scenario. Love photographing nature, figured I'd upgrade my camera to take better photos, couldn't cost me THAT much could it? That was when I started looking into getting a nice lens for landscapes and macro's.... oh boy, i quickly discovered that it isn't as cheap as i had originally thought :P hahaHaha and here i was, thinking that i could treat myself to a nice camera set up and go out bush and walking and it be a relatively cheap hobby... NAWTTTT - i reckon there will be a never ending wish list
and I just noticed you're in perth too!
Nah.I got my first body and kit lenses at the end of November.Since then I have,accumulated,some more stuff.
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