Copyright claim - with a difference

[ricktas]

Why is it "idiotic", Arthur. Unlikely to succeed, I agree, but some chimps (or interested parties of the chimps) managed to get legal entity status in NY, so it may be worth a try. I can't say that I agree, but it's no more idiotic than many things that are tried out legally. And some succeed.

idiotic
ɪdɪˈɒtɪk/
adjectiveinformal
adjective: idiotic

very stupid.
"I was able to hum its idiotic theme tune"
synonyms: stupid, silly, foolish, half-witted, witless, brainless, mindless, thoughtless, imprudent, incautious, irresponsible, injudicious, indiscreet, unwise, unintelligent, unreasonable; ill-advised, ill-considered, impolitic, rash, reckless, foolhardy;
absurd, senseless, pointless, nonsensical, inane, fatuous, ridiculous, laughable, risible, derisible;
dim, dim-witted, dopey, gormless, damfool, half-baked, hare-brained, crackbrained, pea-brained, wooden-headed, thickheaded, nutty, mad, crazy, dotty, batty, dippy, cuckoo, screwy, wacky;

Yep. Idiotic seems a good choice of word to me.

[Mark L]

So from the original article that is linked from the lesser article that Rick posted ..... http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...t-lawsuit-peta

"The suit was filed in federal court in San Francisco by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (Peta). It seeks a court order allowing Peta to administer all proceeds from the photos for the benefit of the monkey, which it identified as six-year-old Naruto, and other crested macaques living in a reserve on the Indonesian island of Sulawesi."
Seems like a good cause.

"Joining Peta in the suit is Antje Engelhardt, a primatologist from Germany who has studied the Sulawesi macaques.:"
She must presumably be an idiot??

"David Favre, a Michigan State University law professor who often writes about animal rights, said by email that the copyright issue raised by Peta “is a cutting-edge legal question.They have a fair argument,” he wrote, “but I would have to say it is an uphill battle.”
Another idiot maybe??

[Kym]

PETA are trying to get legal rights for animals... it's part of their complete idiot (no idiot parts missing) agenda.

[ameerat42]

PETA are trying to get legal rights for animals... it's part of their complete idiot (no idiot parts missing) agenda.

PETA are trying to get legal rights for animals... it's part of their complete idiot (no idiot parts missing) agenda.

--Which just goes to show you CAN say that again.

PETA - Problematic Extremists Tormenting All.

They have not got past the "ends justify the means" yet.

--This is NOT to deny that there is cruelty/ignorance/bigotry/other perjorations in the treatment/interaction with animals.

[Steve Axford]

Sometimes PETA do go a bit far, but they have achieved quite a bit that many people think is good. Without organisations like PETA, who would speak up for the rights of laboratory animals, live export animals, animals at abattoirs, etc. Why should we we think that idiotic?

[ameerat42]

You're right, but the point you make is "like PETA". There are lots, RSPCA and its ilk for some.

I'm not talking "idiotic" except for as it applies to certain activities that are extreme.

[Steve Axford]

Sometimes they do get a little "out there", but to write them off as just being crazies is also silly. Even the case we are discussing isn't that crazy if you read between the lines. It has almost no chance of succeeding (correct that, no chance), but it creates publicity and prompts people to think about the issues. It also emphasises the point that just because a man leaves a camera lying around with some monkeys, it doesn't mean he has a claim to photographic brilliance and the copyright. If he hadn't said a monkey took the photo, then he could have easily claimed the copyright - but then nobody would be interested in the photo. It's the story that sells this photo.

[MissionMan]

After watching the Freo AFL game on Friday, there are a couple of supporters from Freo that PETA should be defending in court because they definitely don't fall into the human category.

[ameerat42]

That's foreshore!

[Kym]

I stand by the complete idiot assessment of PETA... (google 'PETA idiots' for LOTS of examples)

http://www.deepseanews.com/2011/09/p...-being-idiots/

Warning: Offensive Language in Video Clip

[Mark L]

PETA may be a pain for some but they, like all of us have a right to challenge things in the courts.
So is this thread about copyright or PETA?

[ricktas]

PETA lost : http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-0...yright/7074538

[ameerat42]

Formal: PETA.
Colloquial: BOOFHEADS.

[Mark L]

Formal: PETA.
Colloquial: BOOFHEADS.

So is this thread about copyright or PETA?

[ameerat42]

PETA (?PITA) were a player in the thread, so BOAF, I guess. - Hence "BOOF"

They were appealing selfies of the "monkey" though. He might APPEAL

[arthurking83]

PETA lost : .....

As any sane normal person would reasonably assume.

The end point in this silliness is that PETA is run by abnormal types, from a head office in a nuthouse.

The real issue now is that they have totally diminished or destroyed any credibility they may have ever had.

[Glenda]

Have heard PETA is appealing the decision. Of course they are volunteering to administer any cash received on the primate's behalf. I wonder how much money has been wasted on the court cases up to now and think it would have been better donated to WWF or similar.

[ameerat42]

Have heard PETA is appealing the decision. Of course they are volunteering to administer any cash received on the primate's behalf. I wonder how much money has been wasted on the court cases up to now and think it would have been better donated to WWF or similar.