User Tag List

Thanks useful information Thanks useful information:  15
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 27

Thread: Matt or gloss?

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    23 Jan 2014
    Location
    Dalby
    Posts
    190
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Matt or gloss?

    HI,
    just wondering who prints in gloss or matt? is there pros/cons etc.

    I like my car photography so I think the gloss would show colours better but are there any drawbacks?

    thanks
    jas

  2. #2
    Administrator ricktas's Avatar
    Join Date
    24 Jun 2007
    Location
    Hobart
    Posts
    16,846
    Mentioned
    12 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    I print in both, But if you are going to put a photo into a frame behind glass, where the glass is raised away from the image, gloss can cause a ghosting effect where light is reflected off the print onto the back of the glass. So I tend to use either a matt or metallic paper if going behind glass in this instance. But really is is personal choice, matt, gloss, satin, cloth, canvas, metallic and more.
    "It is one thing to make a picture of what a person looks like, it is another thing to make a portrait of who they are" - Paul Caponigro

    Constructive Critique of my photographs is always appreciated
    Nikon, etc!

    RICK
    My Photography

  3. #3
    Arch-Σigmoid Ausphotography Regular ameerat42's Avatar
    Join Date
    18 Sep 2009
    Location
    Nthn Sydney
    Posts
    23,519
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Usually a higher dynamic range of tones in gloss papers. I (used to) print landscapes, almost everything else
    on gloss, and did some rare portraits - head, head/shoulders - on matt.

    Interesting to see a range of replies.
    Am.
    CC, Image editing OK.

  4. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    12 Dec 2011
    Location
    Beenleigh
    Posts
    748
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I mostly print matt because my printer is setup with matt ink and it is too costly to change back and forth, also I frame my photos and put them behind diffused glass so gloss is negated anyway. I do have a smaller (A4 epson R800) printer which I sometimes do gloss on but usually for someone else. If I had a newer printer I would use satin most of the time I think. When I print on canvas I spray the print with a gloss protector coat but that is still not really glossy.
    Personal preference in the end, but some pics do look better in one or the other.
    David

  5. #5
    Ausphotography Regular
    Join Date
    25 Apr 2008
    Location
    Almere, NL
    Posts
    667
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The choice between matt and gloss (and anything in between) depends on the image and personal preference.

    For example: Harman Gloss FB AI is a pretty glossy paper, a bit blueish. It's great for high-impact B/W images. But for a tad warmer feel, I would choose Ilford's Galerie Gold Fibre Silk or even Prestige Smooth Pearl papers. Rule of thumb for colour prints: if the image consists of large, smooth areas I would prefer gloss over matt, but if the image contains grainy areas (walls, grass, whatever), I'ld choose matt.

    Another issue that may count in the choice is that glossy paper shows printing defects far more than matt. If you have a professional printer (Epson 4900, Canon 9500II, etc.), this is less of an issue than if you have a "home photo product".
    Last edited by jev; 13-03-2014 at 2:50am.
    Ciao, Joost

    All feedback is highly appreciated!

  6. #6
    Photo Bizarro
    Join Date
    21 May 2012
    Location
    Newcastle
    Posts
    1,134
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I generally print matte, just because I prefer it over the glossy look on most images.
    My name is John.
    www.jrfraser.com


  7. #7
    Member Ragsy's Avatar
    Join Date
    09 Jan 2014
    Location
    Para Vista
    Posts
    74
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I found that if you print gloss and frame it with a glass front it becomes too reflective with light and people can't to see the photo clearly because of it, if that makes sense??

    I think its a personal choice really but consider where it will be positioned to avoid too much reflection.

    Ragsy

  8. #8
    Ausphotography Veteran
    Join Date
    16 Sep 2008
    Location
    Cowangie
    Posts
    2,623
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I do a lot of framed prints for sale at Sunday Markets and I use a number of different papers. For high dynamic photos I use gloss, For B&W I use matt and for softer or subdued colours satin is my choice. When mounted flat on the glass as I do there is no problem with ghosting from gloss prints as mentioned by Rick. I am also experimenting with canvas and getting good results. Non reflective glass will also help with presentation, I use this for special orders but for markets keeping the price down is a major consideration.
    Cheers
    Keith.
    Last edited by Speedway; 25-03-2014 at 12:42pm.

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    25 Jun 2010
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    373
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    My personal preference is matt so I tend to print more in matt but really in the end i think it depends on the type of image and ultimately your own personal preference.
    Feel free to edit any of my pictures.
    Flickr

  10. #10
    Ausphotography Regular
    Join Date
    24 May 2010
    Location
    MELBOURNE
    Posts
    938
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    you're right, the gloss paper will make your colours stand out a little more. But further to that, also assist in making them nice and shiny and glossy as is the finish on a car
    Daniel Thompson

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Canon 7D & 5D Mark II : 24-70mm f2.8L : 70-200mm f2.8L IS II : 17-40mm f4L : CANON EF 100MM F2.8 MACRO L IS USM: 10-22mm f3.5-4.5 USM : 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS : 50mm f1.8 : 430EX II & 580EX II External Speedlites : Manfrotto 190X PROB + 804RC2 head : Lee CPL, ND and GND filter system : Lee Big Stopper : CS6 Photoshop : PS Elements 11 : PS Lightroom 5 Tightly packed into a Lowepro Pro Runner 450

    Follow me on FACEBOOK http://www.facebook.com/GreenOrchardPhotography

  11. #11
    Member
    Threadstarter

    Join Date
    23 Jan 2014
    Location
    Dalby
    Posts
    190
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Well I had a massive 45x30 inch print done in matt from Photobox as on sale and I am impressed! It is nice and clear and the matt suits that size photo (still looks shiny just not reflective).
    Also I just used the JPEG version of my original RAW image (JPEG was a lot smaller and about 8mb) but still came out clear.
    It was a test print for me to see how big I could go with a Canon 60D and looks great.

    I will try a gloss print in about 20x30 soon and let you know results.

  12. #12
    Ausphotography Regular
    Join Date
    27 Mar 2014
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    1,173
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yes I think it very much depends on subject matter and whether colour or monochrome.

    In my experience the gloss tends to keep vibrant saturated colours looking good, an effect often lost with matt paper. With monochrome photography this isn't such an isue and satin or matt papers can be very effective.



    As far as framing with glass over it, my wife recently reframed a lot of the pictures I had getting rid of non reflective glass and using clear glass. Does it reflect more. Yes. Can it make it harder to see? Very much depends on where light sources are and viewing angle. It did however brighten all the images up and made them look much more "alive", I'm happy with that outcome, and won't use non reflective glass again.

  13. #13
    Member
    Join Date
    06 Jun 2012
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    421
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I generally print in matte.

    Would love to try backlighting sometime too.

  14. #14
    Member
    Join Date
    29 May 2010
    Location
    Wollongong NSW
    Posts
    69
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Matte for framed and gloss for everything else

  15. #15
    Member
    Join Date
    02 May 2014
    Location
    Cairns
    Posts
    9
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I work in a photo lab and we obviously do both matt/gloss prints. Its interesting to find that ALL the protogs that come in all print on matt, with maybe the odd gloss but rarely. I think matt makes image look a little bit more dynamic/deeper if that makes any sense? That's usually for anything from 6x4 up to 12x18, then all our large formats are done on an Epson Stylus with Premium Lustre 260.

    As for which is better, it really is personal preference, I like matt more

  16. #16
    Member
    Join Date
    13 Jul 2012
    Location
    Wodonga
    Posts
    129
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Just to throw into left field, I sometimes use photos on birthday cards. I have found that for this type of project gloss is more spectacular than matte but doesn't last as long and is easily scratched - I suppose it depends on the printer quality too. However I have recently had a couple of photos enlarged on canvas, professionally done of course and they are matte, with a tinge of gloss or maybe satin, I don't feel they would look right as gloss. I guess it all comes down to personal preference, go to art galleries, markets and places where things are on display, see what you like and what you don't it might help you make up your mind better. Just a thought.
    D7000, 18mm to 105mm Nikon lens & 18mm to 250mm Sigma lens.

    To know what you know and to know what you don't know...is to know.

  17. #17
    Member
    Join Date
    13 Sep 2013
    Location
    Cairns
    Posts
    32
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I've been working in a print shop for the last eleven years and in my experience most weekend shooters print in Gloss.The Pros mostly choose to print in Satin or Matt depending on the subject matter of their print, though I've noticed that Pro photos of the Great Barrier Reef are always Glossy as are the local prints for car sales yards. Landscapes, portraits and wedding prints are mostly done on either Matt or Canvas. This seems to be a trend I have noticed, though I have found that most people have a favorite and just stick to that preference.
    I print in whatever the brings out the best in the image and have printed on Gloss/satin/Matt & canvas and have been happy with all of them.
    From experience I do think photos of cars look better in Gloss, as they bring out the gloss of the paint. ( unless of course the image is of an old rusted car, then I would print in Satin).

    Well that's my 2c worth!

  18. #18
    Member superbee15's Avatar
    Join Date
    10 Nov 2013
    Location
    Alexandra Hills
    Posts
    181
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The few I print are 99% Gloss.

  19. #19
    Member hus's Avatar
    Join Date
    27 Dec 2009
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    313
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    When I print it has always been non gloss paper.
    The fastest way to a man's heart is through his chest with a sharp knife
    Canon 50D,
    Tamron 70-200 f/2.8, A very bright light, EF 50 f1.8, Tamron 17-50 f2.8

  20. #20
    Member Tamama's Avatar
    Join Date
    17 Jul 2014
    Location
    Earlwood
    Posts
    25
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ooooops0 View Post
    HI,
    just wondering who prints in gloss or matt? is there pros/cons etc.

    I like my car photography so I think the gloss would show colours better but are there any drawbacks?

    thanks
    jas
    Gloss provide better contrast than Matte !

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •