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    Looking for a RAW P & S Any Suggestions ?

    Hi APers,

    Heading to Cambodia next week, and not real keen on taking my Canon gear with me.

    I was looking at the Sony Cyber-shot DSCRX100 (http://www.sony.com.au/product/dsc-rx100)

    Looking for any other suggestions or some feedback from people that may have this camera.

    It seems to be a winner on DP Review and the likes, for overall performance, and the new sensor.

    I would like RAW File format, and the benefits that the Sony offers, rather than a budget P & S.

    Thanks in Advance,
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    From what I've read, the RX100 is about as good as a high end P&S gets.

    Other options include Canon G series(I think they're up to #15 or something like that)
    Nikon P7000 series(apparently not very good in handling terms .. Canon's G series are better)

    Then you have some ILC type compacts(m4/3rds) like Olympus Pens and Panasonics.

    I think the Panasonic GM1 is about as small as you can get when it comes to interchangeable lenses, and the body is smaller than most compacts.
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    I took an RX100 to Malaysia. First time without an SLR, and no regrets. It performed magnificently, and was so extremely handy. I always had it with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arthurking83 View Post
    From what I've read, the RX100 is about as good as a high end P&S gets.

    Other options include Canon G series(I think they're up to #15 or something like that)
    Nikon P7000 series(apparently not very good in handling terms .. Canon's G series are better)

    Then you have some ILC type compacts(m4/3rds) like Olympus Pens and Panasonics.

    I think the Panasonic GM1 is about as small as you can get when it comes to interchangeable lenses, and the body is smaller than most compacts.
    Hi AK, Looking at a non interchangeable lens camera.

    These hands and a Nikon, Nahhhhh Nuda Never.. LOL

    Looked at the G's but for me, they're just a little to basic in the P & S.

    Cheers mate,

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    I took an RX100 to Malaysia. First time without an SLR, and no regrets. It performed magnificently, and was so extremely handy. I always had it with me.
    This is what I'm after, Cheers bowjac.

    Any dramas with humidity? Did you use it by chance on a flexi tripod or Gori Grip?

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    f/1.8 vs f/2.8 while it sounds like a no brainer and Sony wins .. I think the reality may not be so simple.

    Sony's smaller sensor will produce more noise for a given ISO level, so it really needs the f/1.8 speed lens, just to compete with the Canon in the same lighting conditions.
    BUT!(you think, yeah .. so what!) at f/1.8 the lens is more likely not to render as acutely at it will at f/2.8 .. that is an f/1.8 lens is more likely to render the scene somewhat more softly or less contrasty.

    I don't about all the other features, and while 20Mp sounds nice to have ... in lower light levels, 15Mp may be more than enough.


    I reckon weight up the features list, and price differences and then look at what they can do in a comparative environment:

    DPR comaparo

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    FWIW: I'd probably choose the Canon if it were; 1/ cheaper or even slightly more expensive(but not too much more) 2/ there was the possibility I was going to shoot in low light levels a lot.

    Other stuff like built in features are nice, but not as important as the camera output and usability. G series Canons have the best reputation for usability( almost mini DSLR like in their controls).

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    Thanks AK,

    The DP comparo was interesting. Didn't know DP had that function on their page. The low light higher ISO is a clear winner on the Canon, and the ability for me to use my existing flash unit on the Canon is also a good thing. Looks like the Canon's only low point is the Video Capture, slower frame rate and older H.264 against MPEG 4, but hay I can live with that.

    The Canon has got some very good points, would be great if they decided to release a new version right about now.

    Thanks for your input mate, Canon it is then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roosta View Post

    Any dramas with humidity? Did you use it by chance on a flexi tripod or Gori Grip?
    Hi Roosta,

    No issues with humidity, despite heavy rain at some point each day. I also kept in in my pocket, which was not immune to sweat.

    PS. Thanks for the feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowjac View Post
    Hi Roosta,

    No issues with humidity, despite heavy rain at some point each day. I also kept in in my pocket, which was not immune to sweat.

    PS. Thanks for the feedback.
    Thanks for the info.

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