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    Which lens 24-70 f2.8 or 70-200 f4 orf2.8?

    Hi Guys
    Got a very tricky question, thought should discuss with experts to find a resolution

    Bit about my skill and gadget - I do event and kids sports photography and timely landscape and have CANON 7D with flash 430 exii

    Regarding Lens I already have a L series lens 24-105 f4 and now wants to buy another lens. I thought of 24-70 f2.8 ii but the only concern I am having is that my other lens will become redundant or may be less use.

    Then I thought of 70-200 f4, with that I will have complete range from 24-200 in f4.
    But then how about 70-200 f2.8?

    Please advise which one should i go 24-70 2.8 | 70-200 f4 or f2.8

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    if it's outdoor sports, f4 will suffice, get the IS version tho, IQ wise very nearly as good as my 70-200 2.8 II

    indoor sports go for 2.8 that extra stop of shutter helps

    i would give 24-70 a miss, 24 really isn't wide on a cropper and 70 not quite long enough for sports, so if you have the money for the 24-70 II and assuming you are shooting outdoor sports i would use that money on a 70-200 f4 IS and a efs 10-22 for landscape and get best of both worlds

    imho, of course
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    Thanks for your quick reply. your explanation was quite around sports photography. How about event photography (parties, seminars etc), which i do more often as compare to sports. Would you have different thoughts?

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    The other consideration to take into account is the weight of the 2.8. The extra stop is great when you need it, but it comes at a price. The quality of the F2.8 IS II is outstanding, but I have also heard the quality of the F4 IS is also on par.

    I agree with your thoughts on the 24-70. Once I bought it, the 24-105 ended up on fleabay quickly as it was never used again.
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    in that case 24-70 2.8 definitely worth considering i think, i shoot with a 5d3 and 24-70 II is just awesome

    in saying that have you considered primes? i think something like the sigma 35 1.4 would be pretty awesome, gives you 1.4, sharpness is fantastic wide open, very close to the classic 50mm FOV on a crop, i shot a 21st for a friend long time ago when i was shooting with my 60D and i had the sigma 30 1.4 at the time and i had it on all night and it was fine, only swapping over to my tokina 11-16 for the big group photos (was tight space), i've also shot a 30th's at a fancy bar pretty much with the sigma 35 all night (this was with my 5d3 tho) and again only swapping over to my 17-40 for group photos (haven't bought the 24-70 then)

    in saying that i don't have too much experience shooting events, just a hobbyist that tries to shoot anything and everything lol, other working pros may give you better advice

    hope that helped anyway

    also FWIW. here are a few shots from last week at friend's graduation with my 24-70II, again it was on my 5d3 tho


    Sam's Graduation by basketballfreak6, on Flickr


    Sam's Graduation by basketballfreak6, on Flickr


    Sam's Graduation by basketballfreak6, on Flickr
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    thanks for quick replies guys

    Forget to mention that I have 50mm 1.4

    so far looks like 70-200 f4 is the one taking lead.

    Great crush on 24-70 f2.8 may be one day after selling my 24-105 f4.

    I know 2.8 at 24-70 is v sharp and awesome lens but not fussy abt 2.8 at 70-200 range and can live with f4.

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    i actually sold my 24-105 to fund the 24-70 II lol

    in saying that i do believe 24-70 II and 24-105 can co-exist, 24-70 II hands down have the better IQ and the 2.8 is invaluable for events or if you need the shutter speed but i still believe 24-105 makes the better walk around lens, and there are times i miss the IS of the 24-105, not to mention 24-105 @105 can blur out background more than @70 2.8

    but as someone that does this for fun and not really making money i just can't justify keeping both lenses, the IQ of the 24-70 II was just too tempting xD

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    I've got the f4 non is and its a fantastic lens. Its tack sharp and I get quite a lot of use out of it.

    I always thought it was one of the sharpest of the lot but I don't know where I heard or read that.

    I'd definitely recommend that unless you need the is or extra stop.

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    For Event and Sports Photography, if I only had a 7D: I would sell the 24 to 105/4L IS and buy the EF-S17 to 55F/2.8 IS USM and also the 70 to 200F/2.8 L IS USM (original or MkII).

    For Event Photography, 24mm is not wide enough on an APS-C sensor Camera.

    You should read this thread here: http://www.ausphotography.net.au/for...4-105-vs-24-70


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    Quote Originally Posted by William W View Post
    For Event and Sports Photography, if I only had a 7D: I would sell the 24 to 105/4L IS and buy the EF-S17 to 55F/2.8 IS USM and also the 70 to 200F/2.8 L IS USM (original or MkII).

    For Event Photography, 24mm is not wide enough on an APS-C sensor Camera.

    You should read this thread here: http://www.ausphotography.net.au/for...4-105-vs-24-70


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    These are the two lenses I own (the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 and non-IS EF 70-200mm f/2.8L), and they are both great. Brian500au is right about the weight, though - the 17-55 is pretty damned heavy! Oh, and if you think you might upgrade to a FF camera in the future, this is another thing to consider if you buy this lens.

    The f/2.8 will probably be handy if any of the events you shoot at are indoors and/or in lower than optimal light, even if you have a flash.
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    I know this may be a bit late, but the difference between f4 and f2.8 is massive... Its amazing how many times that extra stop comes in handy.

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    if you get the 70-200 you can fit an extender for sports
    1.4x will reduce your max aperture by one stop.
    so,,, if you get a f2.8 your a little ahead of the reduction if you know what i mean.
    depends if you would want a lens reaching to 280mm or 400mm if you get a 2x extender
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    Just as a possibility; the new Tamron 70-200 2.8 is rating VERY well against the brand name lenses.
    If it's anything like the Sigma equivalent (which I have) - it could be very much worth a look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Ryan View Post
    if you get the 70-200 you can fit an extender for sports
    1.4x will reduce your max aperture by one stop.
    so,,, if you get a f2.8 your a little ahead of the reduction if you know what i mean.
    depends if you would want a lens reaching to 280mm or 400mm if you get a 2x extender

    Also note that the F/4 lens with a x2 tele extender will not have AF with a 7D.
    With either extender on a 7D, (and any EF 70 to 200) I believe that when there is AF, it will only be the centre point, though I am not near the data sheet to confirm that.

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    I have the 70-200 F4 and very happy with it.....

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    Also, the 70-200 F4 is light and easy to carry around. I picked up mine from DDP for AU600 delivered. Compared to the model with IS which is about 1100, I think it was a good investment.....

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    Also, the 70-200 F4 is light and easy to carry around. I picked up mine from DDP for AU600 delivered. Compared to the model with IS which is about 1100, I think it was a good investment.....
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    Good choice of lens - the 70-200 would of been my choice with what you use them for. Nice Photo as well!
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    f4 is fine for outdoors, but if you shoot anything indoors you may end up discovering (even with high ISO these days) that it is not bright enough.

    If outdoors is mainly your thing, then Canon's f4 L lenses are all fantastic choices.

    I, however, have recently discovered f4 is not quite bright enough for some of my paid work, and am planning on offloading my 24-70 f4 IS to upgrade to the f2.8 version. I really love the compact size and the IS, but I am finding I need the f2.8 for what I shoot.

    Unsure if that helps, but know that if you do go with the f4 lenses you will still have amazing image quality.
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    I'd agree with the comments above about the f/2.8. If you can afford the 70-200 f/2.8, go for it. I have the Nikon equivalent but from what I understand, they are pretty close to each other. As lenses, they are absolutely amazing, especially if you looking at sports.
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