Adobe to abandon Photoshop! CS6 is the last one

[Sifor]

Likely they're moving to this model due to piracy, however it will not stop it- they will find a way to crack the software. Even if it does an activation check every 30 days, that is not something difficult to overcome..

It will be a major turnoff for many, and so it'll be interesting to see what happens...

[Warbler]

It's akin to a car company telling you that you can't buy one of their cars outright, only hire it. I hope this decision blows up in their faces.

[ricktas]

http://www.adobe.com/cc/letter.html

Will also be interesting to see how people like Google manage their Nik Software suite, and others who develop plugins and filters for Adobe products, adjust to work with this new cloud based operation.

[Rattus79]

except for new model cameras' RAW files.

You'll just have to sell all your lenses/bodies and get a .... They have Adobe DNG built in, no Vapourware required.

[arthurking83]

Adobe aren't abandoning Photoshop or Creative Suite, it's just going to a subscription model. It'll be cheaper for some (those who subscribe the the whole package) and more expensive for others (those who just subscribe to Photoshop) but Adobe aren't abandoning anything.

Adobe has said it will no longer be developing its Creative Suite range of software, leaving its subscription and cloud-based Creative Cloud as the only way of accessing the latest version of Photoshop

What exactly is it about that initial line that makes you think they're not abandoning the CS line of products!!

CS6 has a limited lifetime, as already said by others. Once Adobe decides that ACR will no longer be supported for newer cameras, and Adobe stop supporting updates and bug fixes ... technically they have ceased support for the CS products!

Why is this concept so hard to understand.

For those that see this as a good move .. good luck to them.

For the majority tho .. having to pay twice as much for software every year, sounds like money not well spent.

There are many folks out there that may skip a generation or two of a particular software product, to then update it later on in their usage cycle.
Windows is a classic example of this method of updating software ... you get the good stuff(Win2K .... WinXP .. Win7), and pass on the crappy versions(Win Vista, Win8 .. etc)

Adobe thing they above the general consumer trend for product cycles, and I(also) think this may become the start of the end of their dominance in this field.
I just hope that whoever takes up this challenge, that they design their software so that it's not so convoluted!


I suppose there may be one side benefit of going this route tho(if their subscription model works in this manner).

They reckon you can use the software for 180days without having to be online.
So can you come and go into the product's subscription cycle as you need, and not have to pay any missed usage?

That is, say you have atone of images you want to process in July ... and you do this, but you don't use the software for three or four months, can you come back to it in Dec, and only pay for this month's usage?
Or do you have to pay for the missing 4 months, where you didn't use it?

This is the key to it's success.
If you're paying to use a produce that you don't use ... I think this is going to become a massive fail mark against Adobe.


For many general users(ie. non commercial type users) ... I think they will gravitate to other raw converters and use TIFF file types as the basis for their photography editing.

I can't see LR lasting for too much longer without going to the same product modelling.

[agb]

[QUOTE=arthurking83;1142884

They reckon you can use the software for 180days without having to be online.
So can you come and go into the product's subscription cycle as you need, and not have to pay any missed usage?

That is, say you have atone of images you want to process in July ... and you do this, but you don't use the software for three or four months, can you come back to it in Dec, and only pay for this month's usage?
Or do you have to pay for the missing 4 months, where you didn't use it?

[/QUOTE]
I too thought that might be a way of circumventing the monthly payment, but I suspect that it will probably only apply for those on an annual subscription. They can't possibly be so stupid as to have a monthly subscription and then let you use it for three months without having to pay. Can they?

[arthurking83]

..... They can't possibly be so stupid as to have a monthly subscription and then let you use it for three months without having to pay. Can they?

Being Adobe, they'd have thought of this, and one would expect them not to allow people to come and go into the subscription as they please.
This of course doesn't make any sense to a company seemingly hell bent on becoming the masters of the software universe ... but sometimes you never know.

BUT!!!..... It wouldn't be hard for them to produce a software model for this new CC product for those of you that would like to use it on a monthly basis.

Say you pay $10 more (than the regular price)per month just to use it for one month on a month by month basis .. or something like that.

I mean, you get this type of product services with internet providers, and phone companies now .. whereas a few moons ago this wasn't possible.

I personally wouldn't pay for software that is ultimately not mine to keep.

[ROA44]

From what I understand you wont actually be down loading the program but you will have to subscribe to be able to gain access to the software then do do what ever you want and log off then when you want to use the software again you have to go and log in again. A RRP. But I could be wrong someone may be able to correct this but that's what was suggested @ work. but I think I will @ least try to get Lightroom 4 real soon & or do I upgrade corel draw 4. all becoming a RRP

[Cris]

I just went on the Adobe website and it says if you qualify-cs3 or newer you can have a $9.99 single app monthly subscription for 12 months-doesnt seem like such a bad deal, maybe if it goes way beyond that after 12 months then that might suck.

[Warbler]

My understanding from reading the link Rick posted above is that you will sign up for a twelve month subscription, and therefore pay for twelve months when you do. You then also need to be online from time to time for your software to continue to function. Presumably you won't be able to simply pay for one month and get four.

See this link:

http://www.adobe.com/au/products/cre...ing-guide.html

Notice the words "Annual Commitment Billed Monthly"? No chance that you'll be able to buy a single month.

[agb]

I just went on the Adobe website and it says if you qualify-cs3 or newer you can have a $9.99 single app monthly subscription for 12 months-doesnt seem like such a bad deal, maybe if it goes way beyond that after 12 months then that might suck.

Can you give a link to that, I have searched the adobe website and I cannot find anything less than $19.99p/m

[I @ M]

Interesting thread.

The one question in my mind is.

What is a dobe?

Is it the opposite of a don'tbe?

[kanesmadness]

As a current CC customer i might just dispell a few things here.

during the sign up process it asks if you want to sign up for a year or 1 month the difference is around $15 between the 2 but if you leave the annual plan then you need to pay the rest of the years fees much like a mobile phone plan. The software calls home every now and then to check to see if your still subscribed, im signed up with the annual plan and i intentionally skipped 1 months payment to see what would happen. All i go was a warning telling me that i had 15 days to pay my bill or i would loose access to the software. On my other computer im also using photoshop but again as a test its not connected to the internet. 90 days on and its still letting me run the software.

From that you dont need to be connected to the net to make the software work, unlike what was originally reported when it was released the software is not browser based...you download the full version of photoshop, lightroom, dreamweaver etc and run it as you would the packaged software.

There is a pretty good write up here that answers alot more questions and has links to adobe pages for people who have paid for CS6 and lower to upgrade (or downgrade however you may see it).

So far ive found CC to be a great package with some non advertised additions that i did not expect (domain name, photo portfolio web hosting, tutorials)

[agb]

Anyone else notice that they say GST not payable? I wonder why not.

[Warbler]

Anyone else notice that they say GST not payable? I wonder why not.

They didn't charge GST for my on-line download of CS6 either. They obviously don't believe in paying tax for sales to Aussie customers. The price difference for aussies and yanks and brits has nothing to do with taxes.

And kanesmadness, you get 180 days without confirmation of paid subscription before the software no longer works. Get back to us in another 90 days.

[manohartvs]

That is a bold move from Adobe to be honest. I think they will begin to see a huge dropout in their Customer base. I wonder if they will ever reconsider this decision if things begin to go down the drain.

[nwhc]

Photoshop is more important to graphic designers these days then photographers, with the introduction of Lightroom and Aperture i find myself getting home from work and not wanting to use photoshop anymore. For us designers there is no alternative to photoshop adobe know this i think it is a good move for them.

[Rattus79]

Interesting thread.

The one question in my mind is.

What is a dobe?

Is it the opposite of a don'tbe?

A dobe?

Isn't that one of those things that hippies smoke?

[William]

A dobe?

Isn't that one of those things that hippies smoke?

What would "that" be ? Greg

[SirLozalot]

Likely they're moving to this model due to piracy, however it will not stop it- they will find a way to crack the software...

Photography to me is a hobby that I occasionally get on to when "free" time permits. I have always felt Photoshop way too expensive and so I have been stuck at CS3 with reluctance to spend more money after the original big outlay. I can totally understand the large number of illegally hacked Photoshop installations out there. If you have no commercial income from photography justifying the $$$ then the piracy option is very tempting. I agree this new model will probably not stop the piracy as the subscription model still costs the average amateur too much and gives incentive to hackers.