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Thread: Filming in public: what are your rights? Sydney Morning Herald

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    Filming in public: what are your rights? Sydney Morning Herald

    Here's an informative video clip today off the SMH's website -

    http://media.smh.com.au/news/nationa...s-4086145.html
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    Yes. I saw this one earlier today. There are so many issues at play, and we have no idea of the
    before and after, nor much about the main players. However, the senior police spokesman - assuming he was talking about this incident -
    seemed rather perturbed. All I can say is that the constable involved rather looked like a "fugg", sounded like a bullying "fugg", and certainly
    seemed to have acted like a "fugg". Unfortunately, one has to wonder how m any of his ilk are out there "protecting us", and at the same time
    giving the "force" a very bad name. I think his days of thin-blue-linery might be up for some critical evaluation.
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    The link gives me a fake Kevin '07 at Rooty Hill.
    Were's the above mentioned constable when you need him.
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    filming could be viewed as obstructing police, which is an offence.
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    So is failing to abide by the directions of a police officer.

    However, I think there will be some answers needed on this video footage, as the efforts used on this young bloke did seem a bit excessive. BUT, his own grandfather has come out and said he has had several run-ins with police before, so what we do not see on the videos might well be telling in relation to 'what happened before'..the video recording started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricktas View Post
    So is failing to abide by the directions of a police officer.

    However, I think there will be some answers needed on this video footage, as the efforts used on this young bloke did seem a bit excessive. BUT, his own grandfather has come out and said he has had several run-ins with police before, so what we do not see on the videos might well be telling in relation to 'what happened before'..the video recording started.
    This new footage throws a different light on what he actually did -

    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/youll-make...308-2fp79.html

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    just like the media to stir us up, then release a video to prove things were different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by extraball View Post
    filming could be viewed as obstructing police, which is an offence.
    How could it possible be seen as that? Assuming you're not in their face, I don't see how that could possibly be a reason.

    Glad to see the brass publicly support the public and not the officer on this one.

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    There are now a couple other videos circulating taken earlier showing what Jackson was behaving like prior to being cuffed and put down. He was being a public nuisance and provoking the police. He made it physical, the police reacted in kind. Probably a bit overkill I agree, but they were dealing with a drunk/drugged up and disorderly person.

    As for filming rights - I'd rather follow the rules which state you don't disobey a direct order from a police officer than stand there being a w@nker and proclaiming "I know my rights!", particularly in situations like Mardi Gras or any large, public event where the police are actively looking out for people who might be up to no good and where they are also likely to attract negative attention anyway. Sure it's not against the law to film in a public place, however getting all up in the faces of everyone isn't necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erin View Post
    As for filming rights - I'd rather follow the rules which state you don't disobey a direct order from a police officer than stand there being a w@nker and proclaiming "I know my rights!"


    ..........................don't disobey a direct order from a police officer.


    Who told you of such a 'rule'? Why would you believe that you had to follow an order that was unlawful?
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    it isnt worth the hassle, just let the police do the tough job that they have, without making it any harder

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    Quote Originally Posted by extraball View Post
    it isnt worth the hassle, just let the police do the tough job that they have, without making it any harder
    Of course it's worth the hassle. That is what makes N.S.W (and Australia) not a police state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimD View Post
    Of course it's worth the hassle. That is what makes N.S.W (and Australia) not a police state.
    so we disagree

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    Quote Originally Posted by extraball View Post
    so we disagree
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    After watching him trying to kick the officer in the face and trying to punch....I would have put him on the ground as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by extraball View Post
    just like the media to stir us up, then release a video to prove things were different.
    Exactly. I just never trust anything the media tells me anymore. It's all about spin, hype, opinion and pushing their views/editorial. I don't think I been able to read an actual factual account of anything in the last 10 years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance B View Post
    Exactly. I just never trust anything the media tells me anymore. It's all about spin, hype, opinion and pushing their views/editorial. I don't think I been able to read an actual factual account of anything in the last 10 years!
    Not just the media. People do it as well. The original phone cam footage of this only showed us part of the story. It is most likely that the person who shot it, edited it before uploading it to FB etc. Everyone seems to try and manipulate everyone else. Having trust in anyone these days is much harder than it used to be. You used to be able to shake hands on a deal and it was done. Not any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricktas View Post
    Not just the media. People do it as well. The original phone cam footage of this only showed us part of the story. It is most likely that the person who shot it, edited it before uploading it to FB etc. Everyone seems to try and manipulate everyone else. Having trust in anyone these days is much harder than it used to be. You used to be able to shake hands on a deal and it was done. Not any more.
    You are so correct, Rick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricktas View Post
    Not just the media. People do it as well. The original phone cam footage of this only showed us part of the story<snip>
    But but but!!! It was on the Interweb - it must be true
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