Thanks useful information: 
We were up at Lyndoch hill a week ago.
There are 30,000 rose plants, a surfeit of birdlife and a plethora of landscape vistas!
So the next SA meet will be on Sunday 11th November at http://www.lyndochhill.com/garden.html meeting at around 3:00pm
The roses should be in full bloom according to the local staff.
I'm inviting the TTG camera club to this event as well.
Map: https://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-...q=lyndoch+hill
Digital & film, Bits of glass covering 10mm to 500mm, and other stuff
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