Chnage of situation again!! This is getting annoying. Executor can't make it to Coffs so I am going, but I'll drive over in the morning. I plan to be ont eh hills for pre-sunup so will get to NB around 5ish Qld time (6ish my DS time). Hope I'll see somebody there. If the big yellow van is there I am there. I plan to go circle right to go to NB, then go on to the creek crossing, then come back the same way. Too many steps for me on the full circuit.