New Canon 6D

[William]

Well we were thinking about a 5dmkIII but with the impending release of this new one in December and at Just a smidge over $2000 , Looks good , And its weather sealed , Apparently it will replace the 5D mkII and slip in between the 7D and 5DmkIII

http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/09/c...-specs-leaked/

[norwest]

It looks an interesting model, William.

[mikec]

Seems like it's about to be announced. Here are some spec's that also show up on DPReview.

I think the fact that they've only basically improved the processor to DIGIC 5, a slight bump in FPS, 2 extra AF points and slight ISO increase means most people wouldn't upgrade from a 5DII since it's more like a side step. I'm disappointed to see it uses SD cards too. Probably a body best for those froming from a 60D or Rebel.

It's got GPS and a touch screen to those who care....

[William]

Or somebody with a 30D looking to upgrade when frames per sec dont matter and full frame and weather proofing do

[jjphoto]

I wonder what it will be like to focus manually as it doesn't appear to have interchangeable focusing screens (neither has the 5D3)? I suspect anyone considering buying this camera probably doesn't know how to focus manually anyway as it seems aimed at the very low end of the market, but it is the 6D (the higher the number the lower the spec).

Maybe it would be a decent spare for FF users but the fact it uses SD cards only is disappointing.

[Arg]

.... it doesn't appear to have interchangeable focusing screens ....

Yes it does

[jjphoto]

There you go, I just assumed it would. You know what they say about assuming though....

The 5d3 only has a fixed focusing screen, you can't replace it.

http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/p...Specifications

http://www.zeissrumors.com/2012/03/c...es-manual.html

Yes it does

That's interesting (I looked for that but didn't see it in any of the original specs). It then has an advantage over the 5d3 for manual focus usesrs, such as with Zeiss ZE lenses, or the vast list of older manual focus lenses.



It might be a good spare or first camera for manual focus users as it takes the EgS screen (which works OK in the 5d2).

[mikec]

Surely the MKIII has interchangeable focus screens. A $3k semi pro / pro body without is a joke. Not sure about the 6D though, what does 7D and the xxD's allow regarding focus screens?

William you're right, anyone coming from anything less than a 5D II would be happy with the 6D when looking for FF.

[flashc]

Surely the MKIII has interchangeable focus screens. A $3k semi pro / pro body without is a joke. Not sure about the 6D though, what does 7D and the xxD's allow regarding focus screens?

William you're right, anyone coming from anything less than a 5D II would be happy with the 6D when looking for FF.

The 7D was the first Canon DSLR, as far as I know, that has the ability to switch off all the display lights/points and markings on the viewfinder focusing screen so you can have a completely unobstructed view of the subject. There are no permanent etched markings in the viewfinder screen view and a grid pattern can be switched on (or off) and overlaid on the focus view.

I believe the 5D MKIII has the same system as the 7D.

There are 3rd party companies who make various configurations of focusing screens that will fit into the 7D and 5D MkIII as a replacement.

The 7D also has a 100% field of view through the viewfinder. I do find it hard to focus manually with the fixed focusing screen type when doing any macro closeup.

[William]

As a 30D user , What are/is interchangable focus screens ? I never use manual focus for dawn shoots , To dark , Then after that candids and surfing shots would be hard to use manual focus I'm thinking , Think I'll get a shock with a new Camera , Hopfully you can still shoot in full manual nowdays

[Presotto]

Not being too up with my card knowledge, why is it dissapointing it only uses SD cards?

[jjphoto]

Not being too up with my card knowledge, why is it dissapointing it only uses SD cards?

The pro bodies (and even the 7d and older APSc bodies) normally use CF cards although some allow both. SD are common in P+S cameras. So if you bought a 6D as a backup to a FF body then chances are that you won't have SD cards for it and would have to buy some.

[achee]

I wonder, are CF cards faster / more reliable / ...??? I know they are associated with 'professional' cameras, but I'm ignorant as to why. They are certainly bigger!

[norwest]

With the way William makes music with the 30D, with a full frame we'll hear a full orchestra.

[Xenedis]

Not being too up with my card knowledge, why is it dissapointing it only uses SD cards?

Canon DSLRs traditionally used CF cards. Within the past few years Canon switched to SD cards.

The main advantages of CF cards are as follows:

1. they've traditionally been available in larger sizes;
2. they have faster write speeds; and
3. they're more durable.

Additionally, if you own multiple cameras, it's far more convenient to maintain only one type of storage media, as it's usable across multiple cameras.

[Arg]

....The main advantages of CF cards are as follows:

1. they've traditionally been available in larger sizes;
2. they have faster write speeds; and
3. they're more durable.

....

Although, regarding larger sizes, max CF is 256 GB whereas SDXC allows up to 2TB - eventually.

[Xenedis]

Although, regarding larger sizes, max CF is 256 GB whereas SDXC allows up to 2TB - eventually.

It doesn't appear that any of the major memory card manufacturers offer CF cards (or SDXC cards) greater than 128GB at present.

It is conceivable that Canon will eventually stop supporting CF cards in its cameras, although the latest 1-series camera (EOS-1D X) supports only CF.

[mikec]

William I use a focusing screen with a grid in my 5DII I find it allows me line up things an compose a little easier through the view finder, particularly useful for architectural stuff and horizons. You can get others that allow better manual focusing too but that doesn't worry me.

Presotto both the 1D's, 5D's and 7D's use CF cards. It's a little dumb IMO to use a different format just from that aspect considering they are all pro or semi pro bodies.

[norwest]

Well, it's official. There's previews popping up.

[mikew09]

By the time the 6D comes out I am not sure there will be that much of a price difference. If it launches at just over 2K in Dec, I would think by then I could bargain my local dealer down to under 3K, maybe $2700. I have found as a rule there is not room for barter on a new release but that changes say 12 months on. I don't think the weather sealing is as we may interpret it in comparison to the 5D3. I think it said splash proof which is a bit different to 10mm of rain over 10 mins.

There is at least a couple of features on the 5D3 that I didnt see on the 6D that would benefit the land / seascape photographer also. Not sure I seen micro adjust which I have found useful on my 50D. Cant say I am a fan of the new style controls that remove the joystick but that is a personal preference.

The 5D3 allows for up to 7 bracketed shots. Even non HDR users may find the ability to increase the DR and blend in photoshop makes for some good options. I am probably a bit one sided on this as I had a chance to play with my mates 5D3 for a morning and it is a very impressive camera and I mean superb.

Whilst I battle along saving every spare penny for my 5d3 with a purchase maybe early next yr (if saving goes well) I still think I can get within $500 of the 6D price and I see more than $500 worth of features.

Well that is my rant :-). Probably biased by my handling of the 5d3 but there you go. Having said that Bill, for your style of photography I think the 6D may be just the ticket and maybe any cash saved could go towards a 16-35 L