User Tag List

Thanks useful information Thanks useful information:  60
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 54

Thread: Nudity and thread titles (your opinions please)

  1. #1
    Administrator ricktas's Avatar
    Join Date
    24 Jun 2007
    Location
    Hobart
    Posts
    15,651
    Mentioned
    10 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Nudity and thread titles (your opinions please)

    I am curious about what members think of using a warning in a thread title when nudity is involved.

    Firstly, as we have people under 16 as members on AP, we have a reasonably strict rule regarding the posting of nudity:

    [22] Because our members are of a wide age range we have to take this into consideration regarding this topic. We will allow tasteful, mature, artistic nude photography, as long as no genitalia is visible, and the poses are not sexually suggestive. No full frontal below the belt shots. All nude photos will be heavily moderated and will be removed by a staff member if we feel it is inappropriate. The moderator's decision is final and we will not enter into discussion on the matter. Most importantly, the model in the photo must be over the age of 18 and has given consent to both the photo being taken and the image posted on a public forum. Photographs that depict, or appear to depict illegal activity, are not allowed on the site.


    Considering any photo with nudity on AP, is not going to show genitalia, should we be using a phrase in thread titles to signify the nudity content.

    Some members put NSFW (Not Safe For Work) in their title, others I have seen state 'Warning : Nudity" or similar.

    Note that the mods and I are not going to start enforcing some requirement that nudity threads contain as such in the thread title, but we want to know what members thing. Is having NSFW or NUDITY in the title used to convey the correct message and inform people of the content, so that if they do not want to view it, they can choose not to open the thread. Or is it encouraging to those who want to 'perve' for want of a better word, and thus lead those threads to be less about critique and more about 'nice arse' type replies.

    It is a bit of a balancing act from site management side of things, we want to encourage members who shoot in that genre to join in, but we don't want to see others getting into trouble in their workplace for having a topless lady on display from their monitor (some people are very easily offended at work). Also, a 15 year old male AP member is probably more likely to look at at a thread simply cause it has the word 'nudity' in the title (boys will be boys).

    So all I am after here, is just some members views on how we should approach this, knowing there is no real solution.

    At one time, we did discuss having a nudity forum, which would be password locked and only available to those members who requested access, and who were adults, with the forum being heavily moderated to ensure any photo or comments did not breach legislative boundaries. We decided against it at the time, as there are plenty of other sites on the net already catering to that genre, and management of it might become onerous. It also went against the AP philosophy of giving ALL members the same level of access to the site.

    So please feel free to discuss the use of NSFW or NUDITY etc in thread titles here. Please respect other members views and discuss the issues and not get into berating or attacking another member for their view.
    Last edited by ricktas; 04-04-2012 at 6:42am.
    "It is one thing to make a picture of what a person looks like, it is another thing to make a portrait of who they are" - Paul Caponigro

    Constructive Critique of my photographs is always appreciated
    Nikon, etc!

    RICK
    My Photography

  2. #2
    Member
    Join Date
    12 Feb 2008
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    7,831
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I think NSFW is useful and appropriate and widely used and understood


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    Darren
    Gear : Nikon Goodness
    Website : http://www.peakactionimages.com
    Please support Precious Hearts
    Constructive Critique of my images always appreciated

  3. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    13 Apr 2010
    Location
    Bribie Is Sunny South East
    Posts
    1,047
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I actually prefer the NSFW title. It may not be just nudity, it may be for anything that is covered by that header. Many things are not safe for work that have no nudity involved. Having the word "NUDITY" in caps in the header may also give anybody looking over your shoulder or walking past and glancing at the screen the instant impression that you are on some sort of porn site or something. Where as the letters NSFW have more chance of going unnoticed because the letters do not actually form an easily understood and read word. That's just my 2c worth from somebody who works in a very polictically correct workplace.
    Lloyd
    Canon 5D2+40D+L+Σ+S100
    Never make the same mistake twice, there are so many new ones, try a different one each day
    Flickr

  4. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    16 Sep 2011
    Location
    Canberra
    Posts
    1,218
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I can, and have, accessed the site from work. Our work have a lot of safeguards in place to filter out inappropriate things and if they find anything sus, that site then becomes unavailable from the work computers unless you can submit a reason to unblock it.
    I'd personally prefer to know if a thread has nudity in it before opening it for that reason. I would hate to have the site blocked for viewing at work, as several of my staff are into photography as well, and I often open the site there to show them things (and to encourage them to join up).

    I agree with Lloyd above as well in his comments about the word nudity on the screen versus the letters NSFW
    Last edited by Ezookiel; 04-04-2012 at 7:39am.
    Canon EOS 60D ..... EFS 18-200mm f/3.5 - 5.6 IS - 430 EXII Speedlite - "eBay special" Remote Control Unit - Manfrotto 190XPROB w 804RC2 head.

  5. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    05 Aug 2007
    Location
    Paralowie, South Australia
    Posts
    545
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Agree with the comments above I think NSFW in the title is enough to warn people of the content of the post.
    Andrew.
    comments and criticisms are always appreciated.
    Unless I post into the "NOT FOR CRITIQUE" section then the above doesn't apply.


  6. #6
    Moderately Underexposed I @ M's Avatar
    Join Date
    04 May 2007
    Location
    Marlo, Far East Gippsland
    Posts
    4,911
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    To all those who think that nsfw is a good idea.

    If you are viewing one of the competitions on AP and scrolling through the images and one entry has nudity in it how are the sensitive eyes of your co workers and your workplace computers "censoring" programs going to deal with that.

    Or should we ban competition entries that feature any form of risque images. Or do we have to have nsfw in the image title?

    Maybe we should turn the entire site into a puritan stronghold and not allow pictures of semi or nude people. Do we then exclude images of animals that are engaged in a sex act as well?
    Hmmm, then we should probably ban pictures of kids in the swimming pool.
    Lets extend that to not allowing any images of kids at all as if we are seen viewing them at work we might be considered to be a kiddy fiddler.

    Ooops, sorry but anyone posting images of new born children will also have to have them dressed in their best jump suit for the same reasons as above.

    My last thought on it is, if you are so worried about being busted at work viewing images that your employers don't like to be seen on THEIR computers, get off the bloody net and do some work that you are being PAID to do.
    Andrew
    Nikon, Fuji, Nikkor, Sigma, Tamron, Tokina and too many other bits and pieces to list.



  7. #7
    Member
    Join Date
    15 Jun 2010
    Location
    Horningsea Park
    Posts
    319
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Agree with NSFW so people dont open images on work computer.
    As far as photography to me its a form of art, and if an image makes people talk it has worked.


    I liked this about your photo.......To improve on it you could........Well done and keep posting



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/roshoto/

  8. #8
    Loves The Wildlife. Mary Anne's Avatar
    Join Date
    19 Dec 2009
    Location
    Brisbane Southside.
    Posts
    36,129
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Art in any form is beautiful it does not matter to me what heading it has though I suppose that would gives us the option of looking or not

    Some of our Insect/Animal posts are a bit that way too, I have actually had a reply once saying I should put NSFW in the title.

    I shoot with Canon And Olympus Cameras



  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    20 Jan 2012
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    750
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Another vote for nsfw - some private internet access is ok where I work so I appreciate having access to AP. I can look at nsfw posts when I get home.

    As far as it being a magnet for some people to misuse, I'd like to think most of us aren't like that.
    Steve


  10. #10
    Member
    Join Date
    26 Feb 2010
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    200
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'm just crawling out from under my rock, I didn't know what NSFW meant, now I do and I think it is a good idea to add it in the thread title as a courteous thing, but not a enforceable directive. People will forget and it will be very hard to set a code for what is NSFW and what isn't.
    So not mandatory just advisable.

  11. #11
    Ausphotography Veteran Speedway's Avatar
    Join Date
    16 Sep 2008
    Location
    Cowangie
    Posts
    2,534
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I am another one who didn't know what NSFW meant and now that I do, I agree with its use. As far as boys looking at the photos they can see much more browsing the magazine shelves at newsagents.

    Keith.
    NSFW = Not safe for wowsers

  12. #12
    Arch-Σigmoid Ausphotography Regular ameerat42's Avatar
    Join Date
    18 Sep 2009
    Location
    Nthn Sydney
    Posts
    16,845
    Mentioned
    21 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I agree that NSFW is useful to have in the sensitive situations outlined. However, it has sometimes been used where there has been no human nudity, etc, rather humorously for macro shots, etc. And that's OK too when you first look at the Forum the thread is in, like Macro, Birds.

    If it is going to be used as a genuine flag of human nudity+etc, then its lighter usage should somehow be tempered, maybe like in quotes, "NSFW".
    (U)m.
    CC, Image editing OK.

  13. #13
    Ausphotography Regular Allie's Avatar
    Join Date
    31 May 2011
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    821
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    IMO none of the NSFW threads I have viewed would provide any reason for someone to join AP simply to ogle a woman's body (are there any male versions?) but as a female maybe I don't see these images in the same light. I think for those who find viewing these images a concern, then a warning is appropriate if only to protect AP so the site can say "you can't say we did not warn you" and the NSFW label should be enough - it is not difficult to google the acronym if it is not known.

    Some of these images however do inspire me to improve my photoshop skills so I can put my anglo features onto a better body should I ever need to do so.

  14. #14
    Member
    Join Date
    10 Jul 2010
    Location
    Gold Coast
    Posts
    6,346
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Allie : (are there any male versions?)
    I can fix that up , But not with me , I often think in the mornings some of the young guys look pretty fit , And the ladies might like the view
    Canon : 30D, and sometimes the 5D mkIII , Sigma 10-20, 50mm 1.8, Canon 24-105 f4 L , On loan Sigma 120-400 DG and Canon 17 - 40 f4 L , Cokin Filters




  15. #15
    Member brownie's Avatar
    Join Date
    03 May 2010
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    55
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Thanks for the head up, I now know what NSFW means. I always thought it stood for New South ‘something’ Wales.

    NSFW is works for me so long as everyone understands what it means. May I suggest that an explanation of the acronym NSFW be given to all new (and maybe existing) members for those who don’t know what it means?

    By the way I am writing this during my lunchtime, at work, where I am allowed to visit this site.
    Nikon D90, 18-200VR II, Tokina 100mm Macro, Sigma 150-500, Nikkor 35mm, Giotto Rocket Air Blower

  16. #16
    Amor fati!
    Join Date
    28 Jun 2007
    Location
    St Helens Park
    Posts
    7,275
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    if i browse this site during lunch and come across a full frontal nudity shot by accident, i'd hate to be raked over the coals for it. NSFW or anything like that is a good safeguard against such accidents... I have nothing against the content at all, but other might. its easy to say 'stuff them, its art damn it' but companies like mine wont see it that way.

    i could just not visit the site from work but then i wouldnt be on here much at all. priorities ppl...

  17. #17
    Member
    Join Date
    06 Jul 2010
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    923
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Another vote for NSFW here.

  18. #18
    Member Tommo1965's Avatar
    Join Date
    03 Oct 2010
    Location
    Perth Hills Mundaring
    Posts
    1,028
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by I @ M View Post
    To all those who think that nsfw is a good idea.

    If you are viewing one of the competitions on AP and scrolling through the images and one entry has nudity in it how are the sensitive eyes of your co workers and your workplace computers "censoring" programs going to deal with that.

    Or should we ban competition entries that feature any form of risque images. Or do we have to have nsfw in the image title?

    Maybe we should turn the entire site into a puritan stronghold and not allow pictures of semi or nude people. Do we then exclude images of animals that are engaged in a sex act as well?
    Hmmm, then we should probably ban pictures of kids in the swimming pool.
    Lets extend that to not allowing any images of kids at all as if we are seen viewing them at work we might be considered to be a kiddy fiddler.

    Ooops, sorry but anyone posting images of new born children will also have to have them dressed in their best jump suit for the same reasons as above.

    My last thought on it is, if you are so worried about being busted at work viewing images that your employers don't like to be seen on THEIR computers, get off the bloody net and do some work that you are being PAID to do.
    PMSL....that was a very good observation Andrew...well said..

    as for Rick question..I think your current guidelines are good enough...NSFW in the title could mean anything risky...nudity says it all....this is first and foremost a photography forum that supports all genres from flowers to nudes..i like it just the way it is...i don't appreciate lurid comments though ..

  19. #19
    Member
    Join Date
    16 Sep 2011
    Location
    Canberra
    Posts
    1,218
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Andrew, look up "Straw Man Fallacy" - you've just demonstrated it superbly.
    No-one except you carried it to such extremes and brought up kids in pools, pets, etc. Talk about build up a straw man to tear it down, rather than look at the person's real argument. You show very little knowledge of modern work places. Even as a Government employee we are allowed 10 minutes per session, max 40 minutes per shift, of personal use per day, so there is no need to "get back to doing work" We work 28 hour shifts and do a poop load of work, so without time to use the computers for personal use, we'd go insane. To claim the need to protect the use of the computers at work with NSFW can be extrapolated to wanting it for kids in pools, newborns, etc etc shows some kind of amazing amounts of agro, and a total misrepresentation of the argument that people had put forward.
    Feel free to argue our points, but stick with those points, instead of exaggerating them out to ludicrous degrees.

  20. #20
    Member
    Join Date
    20 Dec 2011
    Location
    Labrador Gold Coast
    Posts
    873
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I think if the site has an audience of a g rating crowd, then it's respectful to add something that indicates if the content isn't g rated.... Or needs ' parental guidance'


    But......they can see it anyway, so it's all g rated right?


    Had no idea what nsw meant either. Who has time to surf the net at work! Lucky u lol



    Pentax K-r
    Da 15mm & 70mm Ltds, Fa 35mm f2, F 50mm f1.7
    Da*200mm, Tamron 90mm Macro, Sigma 28-105 f2.8
    _______________________________________________
    ***cc welcomed and appreciated***



Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •