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Duane Pipe
07-09-2011, 11:51am
I calibrating my monitor with W7 colour management.
Please let me know how this looks on your calibrated monitor please
This image on my screen before pp was -1.5 under exposed
Thanks for looking

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af351/SwearBear2/bg.jpg

old dog
07-09-2011, 11:56am
looks a little over exposed to me Duane...maybe half a stop. The faces and brides chest and arms look that way and the dress looks about a stop over but I don`t think that can be corrected a lot. Lets see what some others say...

kiwi
07-09-2011, 12:04pm
I agree, gee that's a horrid background though :eek:

Duane Pipe
07-09-2011, 12:37pm
Yep I agree too on exposure and the BG Darren dose suck:th3:

William
07-09-2011, 12:59pm
Just a thought Dave, I agree it is over exposed on the dress especially, If you calibrated your monitor by eye, Maybe you've got it to dark (The Monitor) Seeing were're all seeing on our Electronicly Calibrated Monitors to bright, Did you check the little Calibration bar at the bottom of the page , Scroll down to the bottom, If not pack all your gear up , Pooter and all and I'll calibrate it for you ;) Over a few beers :th3:

FilthyAmatuer
07-09-2011, 1:29pm
Just a thought Dave, I agree it is over exposed on the dress especially, If you calibrated your monitor by eye, Maybe you've got it to dark (The Monitor) Seeing were're all seeing on our Electronicly Calibrated Monitors to bright, Did you check the little Calibration bar at the bottom of the page , Scroll down to the bottom, If not pack all your gear up , Pooter and all and I'll calibrate it for you ;) Over a few beers :th3:

How exactly are you meant to use those calibration bars?

William
07-09-2011, 1:45pm
Just make sure you can just make out the different segments , Especially at either end , It should look smooth and gradual, But be still able to see all the Graduations through the whole bar , This is not calibration , But is a good help in getting your Shadows and Highlights looking viewable :)

Duane Pipe
07-09-2011, 2:01pm
Just a thought Dave, I agree it is over exposed on the dress especially, If you calibrated your monitor by eye, Maybe you've got it to dark (The Monitor) Seeing were're all seeing on our Electronicly Calibrated Monitors to bright, Did you check the little Calibration bar at the bottom of the page , Scroll down to the bottom, If not pack all your gear up , Pooter and all and I'll calibrate it for you ;) Over a few beers :th3:

Good onya Bill now im thirsty, I usually have my first about 2pm, not long to go:th3: Thanks for the offer though William:beer_mug:
I can just make out the end segments on the Calibration bar so I suppose that's good, before I did the calibration I could not
Kim put this link up in another thread Filthy and I found it very good
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/

William
07-09-2011, 2:10pm
Yep thats a goodie, Here are a few more as well that may help , I used these before I bought a Spyder3 Express

http://www.photoscientia.co.uk/Gamma.htm

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/monitor_calibration.htm

http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html
http://www.displaymate.com/check.html

Hope these help - Bill :)

Bennymiata
07-09-2011, 2:23pm
Are these Spyder calibrators any good?
Are they easy to use for a first timer?

Which model would you reccomend?
I need to get my monitors calibrated.

William
07-09-2011, 2:40pm
:rolleyes: I dont want to get into an arguement about which is best :) The Spyder3 Express is good and only around $120 delivered , I've had prints done lately in Fuji Pearl by a professional Printer, And what I saw on my Monitor was the same as the printed Image :cool:, Dead easy to use as well , Just load the disc> Install and follow the prompts , Hey , I could do it :D

mongo
07-09-2011, 6:30pm
mongo has 2 monitors - neither is calibrated. Both look slightly different to each other. However, even on Mongo's monitors, your image is slightly overexposed; particularly the white dress. But hey, Mongo's are uncalibrated so don't listen to what he says necessarily

kiwi
07-09-2011, 7:26pm
I got an older spyder2 for $50 or something off eBay. Work a treat and really couldn't be simpler

arthurking83
07-09-2011, 8:23pm
Dave, for the visual cue to how much the over exposure is, always check the histogram. There is over exposure in the image.
Some histogram tools in various software have the ability to display lost highlights/shadow in the image via flashing cues for each.
For example if you have a copy of Lightroom you click on the small triangle in the top right corner of the histogram graph and it will show you where the lost highlights are in the image.
Of course other software will vary on how it all works, but it's a good way to get a finer tuned pseudo calibration.

The only other thing I wanted to mention was the slight blue cast in the image. The whites especially in the groom's shirt look to have too much of a blue cast, mainly in the darker areas of the white sections.

This is usually due to a cooler than ideal WB setting in camera and no adjustment made in PP.
If you shot in cloudy conditions, and used AWB in camera, (we know you shot in raw mode in camera) first thing is to set WB to cloudy and take it from there.

For me, I would set WB in the raw file from what ever it was, to either cloudy or about 5700-6200K(depending on what software you're using)



Only because Darren mentioned the background(and he's most definitely right too! :p) if you have unappealing backgrounds to contend with, first thing you do with the subjects is to pull them away from the background in the hope that you can get it blurred easily.

Duane Pipe
08-09-2011, 7:45am
mongo has 2 monitors - neither is calibrated. Both look slightly different to each other. However, even on Mongo's monitors, your image is slightly overexposed; particularly the white dress. But hey, Mongo's are uncalibrated so don't listen to what he says necessarily

Thanks Mongo. Its a wonder you can see any thing with those eyes:D

Duane Pipe
08-09-2011, 7:46am
I got an older spyder2 for $50 or something off eBay. Work a treat and really couldn't be simpler

Very good Darren I must have a look see on ebay :)

Duane Pipe
08-09-2011, 7:58am
Dave, for the visual cue to how much the over exposure is, always check the histogram. There is over exposure in the image.
Some histogram tools in various software have the ability to display lost highlights/shadow in the image via flashing cues for each.
For example if you have a copy of Lightroom you click on the small triangle in the top right corner of the histogram graph and it will show you where the lost highlights are in the image.
Of course other software will vary on how it all works, but it's a good way to get a finer tuned pseudo calibration.

The only other thing I wanted to mention was the slight blue cast in the image. The whites especially in the groom's shirt look to have too much of a blue cast, mainly in the darker areas of the white sections.

This is usually due to a cooler than ideal WB setting in camera and no adjustment made in PP.
If you shot in cloudy conditions, and used AWB in camera, (we know you shot in raw mode in camera) first thing is to set WB to cloudy and take it from there.

For me, I would set WB in the raw file from what ever it was, to either cloudy or about 5700-6200K(depending on what software you're using)



Only because Darren mentioned the background(and he's most definitely right too! :p) if you have unappealing backgrounds to contend with, first thing you do with the subjects is to pull them away from the background in the hope that you can get it blurred easily.

I only found out yesterday looking at a tutorial on PS that camera raw has that feature Arthur and its almost a 2 click fix and
dose a better job than I can do by adjusting all other sliders and visually trying to do it.
I will have a go at warming the image to see if it will get rid of the blue cast, thanks for the tip.

As for the BG I am going back to where the wedding was and shoot a nice image to use as a BG, the couple will recognize the location
and wont know any difference:D

mongo
08-09-2011, 10:16am
Thanks Mongo. Its a wonder you can see any thing with those eyes:D


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