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Lani
15-09-2010, 12:05pm
Some rumoured info (http://nikonrumors.com/)on the D7000 specs....looks interesting. Native ISO possibly 100 and 1050 shots on a single battery charge.

pgbphotographytas
15-09-2010, 12:20pm
Looks good Lani :)

Xebadir
15-09-2010, 12:44pm
This is going to put the cat amongst the pigeons in terms of the mid-high level DX market....the 60D from Canon has been disappointing and people are suggesting it to be a Lemon, and this thing looks like it can go toe to toe with the 7D. I am definitely thinking about this camera, but will be really intrigued to hear the full specs as everything is suggesting it to be way out there.

The big question now is where the heck are they going to take the D400 (and people are starting to wonder if it will be a super DX or an FX model), the D700 replacement and the D4.

Nikon is going to be well and truly ahead of Canon by may next year in terms of bodies...hopefully though they dont take their foot off the pedal like after the D3/D300 upgrade.

ving
15-09-2010, 12:45pm
it doesnt look good, it looks stunning!!!!

and if i find out its cheaper than the d90 i will scream :p

...it wont be tho. I got my d90 for about $780.

TEITZY
15-09-2010, 12:54pm
I think this make a nice dedicated macro body while I wait for the D300 replacement :D

Cheers
Leigh

Xebadir
15-09-2010, 1:07pm
Heh...think you are safe there Ving...they are talking like 1100-1200 for it which would make sense. I reckon you are on the right track their leigh...for a DX user I suspect this will be most peoples new buy as a No. 2...with the D300/s being upgraded shortly it might see people doubleshot...particularly if they are using the D300. The only downside to me is the use of double slot SD cards which is just painful for us with a collection of CF.

I @ M
15-09-2010, 1:27pm
Certainly does look like more than just evolution of the series, they seem to have gone out of there way to make it quite a jump up from the base models and really not far behind where the D300 started out.

Interesting times indeed.

Xebadir
15-09-2010, 2:06pm
Dpreview have had a D7000 long enough to do a review, the specs:
Nikon D7000 Key Features

* 16.2MP CMOS sensor
* 1080p HD video recording with mic jack for external microphone
* ISO 100-6400 (plus H1 and H2 equivalent to ISO 12,800/25,600)
* 39-point AF system with 3D tracking
* 2016 pixel metering sensor
* Scene Recognition System (see 2016 pixel sensor, above) aids metering + focus accuracy
* Twin SD card slots
* 3.0 inch 921k dot LCD screen
* New Live View/movie shooting switch
* Full-time AF in Live View/movie modes
* Up to 6fps continuous shooting
* Lockable shooting mode dial
* Built-in intervalometer
* Electronic virtual horizon
* Shutter tested to 300k actuations


and the review:
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond7000/

N*A*M
15-09-2010, 2:53pm
wow! some big ticks from me

mag alloy body
AI lens compatible
MUP
100% finder
12 WB presets (8 different fluoro ones!)

reaction
15-09-2010, 2:55pm
Still missing some stuff I wanted :(
wonder when D300s's next is coming?

Lance B
15-09-2010, 3:01pm
It's still missing AF lens calibration. :( I would love a camera like this as a long lens multiplier to back up my D700 but not without AF calibration.

ving
15-09-2010, 3:01pm
it still doesnt make coffee... :(

ving
15-09-2010, 3:06pm
heres an interesting test on it... the first test i have seen.

http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2010/09/nikon-d7000/

TEITZY
15-09-2010, 3:17pm
It's still missing AF lens calibration. :( I would love a camera like this as a long lens multiplier to back up my D700 but not without AF calibration.

The Setup menu on the dpreview has 'AF fine tune' option same as the D300?

Cheers
Leigh

reaction
15-09-2010, 3:26pm
9, 21, 39 point AF systems - anyone got the layout?

reaction
15-09-2010, 3:28pm
The Setup menu on the dpreview has 'AF fine tune' option same as the D300?

Cheers
Leigh

Sharp eyes!
Indeed I see it!

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond7000/images/screens/menu_setup.gif

BUT: why isn't it listed in the spec?
I hope this screenshot isn't reused from the D300!
ANyone confirm?

TEITZY
15-09-2010, 3:33pm
Sharp eyes!
Indeed I see it!

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond7000/images/screens/menu_setup.gif

BUT: why isn't it listed in the spec?
I hope this screenshot isn't reused from the D300!
ANyone confirm?

The D300 doesn't have a 'virtual horizon' function so assume it's the real deal :D

Cheers
Leigh

dieselpower
15-09-2010, 3:54pm
D7000 officially announced - http://mynikonlife.com.au/articles/new-nikon-digital-slr-d7000

dieselpower
15-09-2010, 4:08pm
And more info here, including the AF layout for 'reaction' who asked about it.
http://www.nikon.com/about/news/2010/0915_d7000_02.htm

reaction
15-09-2010, 4:13pm
"Nine cross-type sensors at the most frequently used center of the frame allow for certain acquisition of the intended subject."

I was hoping for cross at the edges for vertical portraits

anyone catch if popup can command like D90?

N*A*M
15-09-2010, 4:18pm
read the specs

the answer is yes

Xebadir
15-09-2010, 4:19pm
Yeah it can reaction, fully integrated with the CLS and can act as commander according to what I have read.

Definitely thinking about this as a video cam/DSLR DX hybrid to team up with an FX primary. Very interesting specs.

dieselpower
15-09-2010, 4:19pm
Advanced Wireless Lighting supported with built-in flash, SB-900, SB-800, SB-700 or SU-800 as commander and SB-900, SB-800, SB-700, SB-600 or SB-R200 as remotes; Auto FP high-speed sync and modeling illumination supported with all CLS-compatible flash units except SB-400; Flash Color Information Communication and FV lock supported with all CLS-compatible flash units

NikonUser
15-09-2010, 4:20pm
I'm hoping that this is indeed a D90 replacement and not a combining of the D90/D300 series.

If not, then I am very excited to see what the D400 brings. It'll probably be out before my D2X comes back from Nikon (so within the next 18 months...:action: )

Paul

I @ M
15-09-2010, 4:23pm
Yeah it can reaction, fully integrated with the CLS and can act as commander according to what I have read.

Definitely thinking about this as a video cam/DSLR DX hybrid to team up with an FX primary. Very interesting specs.

Speaking of CLS and commanders, the SB-700 looks like a very useful bit of kit.

And as a second body to go with FX, I reckon you are right, a very appealing option for those that don't want / need to shell out $$ for a D300s body.

I @ M
15-09-2010, 4:28pm
I'm hoping that this is indeed a D90 replacement and not a combining of the D90/D300 series.



Paul, I reckon it is purely a D90 replacement ( and a way of going one up on the opposition at the enthusiast high end level ) and that the D300s replacement will have the same sensor and video capabilities but with all the other refinements that go along with that series.

NikonUser
15-09-2010, 4:32pm
Paul, I reckon it is purely a D90 replacement ( and a way of going one up on the opposition at the enthusiast high end level ) and that the D300s replacement will have the same sensor and video capabilities but with all the other refinements that go along with that series.

Yeah that seems to be the general consensus. I hope that's correct.

Surely the D400 can't be toooo far away right?

swifty
15-09-2010, 4:52pm
Damn I got that itch again. Must..resist..taking wallet out..
I kept thinking no upgrade for me until the new FX but this sure is sweet.
Ticks all the boxes except SD instead of CF. It'll even meter with AI lenses and AF tune.
I was expecting just video centric and bling specs like MP, iso etc to trump the D300s but it's delivered a lot more.
Bets on a fully pro DX body with intergrated grip as the D300s' replacement next yr with D4 tech that we havn't even thought about yet. I recall reading a rumour the AF will be significantly different in the D4.

old dog
15-09-2010, 5:01pm
it sounds very good and after having the D80 for the past 2 and a bit years, I`m really looking at this one. Love to see differing isotest shots. Won`t be long before someone puts them up.

I @ M
15-09-2010, 5:13pm
With the Oz banana republic collection of pesos nearly hitting $0.95 USD today the SB-700 is looking like very good value at $329.95 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042X9L6A?ie=UTF8&tag=nikorumo-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0042X9L6A) USD.

TEITZY
15-09-2010, 5:22pm
Graeme here are some quotes from Chase Jarvis's web page

http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2010/09/nikon-d7000/

"ISO is awesome to 3200 and very usable above for photojournalism, weddings, live events, art, etc."

"Great low light performance. Holds up for commercial to 1600-3200. Very usable for other applications at 6400. Same league as the D3 line."

"The ISO performance is comparable. The caveat being that the larger pixels on the D3 sensor will render a slightly smoother looking image at the same ISO because the grain pattern is not as tight."


If this is even within 1 stop of the D3/D700 at high ISO that's a fair achievement IMO. I would expect it to be more noisy than the D3 at the pixel level but the larger image size will compensate to some extent. So it could be 2 stops better than the D300 or 3 1/2 stops better than your D80 :D


Cheers
Leigh

reaction
15-09-2010, 5:53pm
generally 1 stop / generation
but if this is using backlit cmos, maybe more than that!

Lance B
15-09-2010, 6:54pm
The Setup menu on the dpreview has 'AF fine tune' option same as the D300?

Cheers
Leigh

Yes, I have now seen that it does by also spotting the menu in DPR. It is surprising that it wasn't considered important enough to be considered one of the main features shown on the press release.

peterb666
15-09-2010, 7:06pm
AI lens compatible


Complete with a fixed AI tab which means full metering with all AI lenses. Of course that also means there is no way you can fit a pre-AI lens.

Should be a great camera for people who like the old MF AI lenses.

old dog
15-09-2010, 7:27pm
thanks leigh for the info. It`s funny situation. I really love my D80 but would love better iso performance. I was considering the 300s but now I might go for the 7000.......hmmmm.

wolffman
15-09-2010, 11:14pm
Looks like a cracking camera. I've had a d90 for a couple of years now, but I am unlikely to upgrade to D7000 for a couple of reasons.
with the four things I want for the D90 replacement, the D7000 has;
Manual lens - Dig the 105 f2.5 AIS out of the box in the closet again.
100% viewfinder
Autofocus on the video

But the big miss for me is the autofocus selection system. D300s etc have the dedicated switch on the back to select between single/dynamic/3D tracking. I have the function button set up on the D90 to go straight to that setting, and its probably my biggest gripe. Also, the AF/MF switch should have been a AFc/AFs/MF switch, as the button and dial option seems a little half baked.

AF on button would have been nice, but I can live without that.
Makes me wonder what the new d300 replacement will look like.

Eberbachl
16-09-2010, 12:02am
I really hope the D7000 is expensive!

It looks great, and I just bought a D90 :D

My D90 is great, but if the D7000 comes in at close to the same price point I'll be kicking myself!

:lol:

farmer_rob
16-09-2010, 7:00am
I want it.

arthurking83
16-09-2010, 9:15am
What I found strange and weird is the deeper market push into the more pro field from Nikon.

Where Canon downspecced the 60D compared to it's predecessor, Nikon thought to up spec the D90 successor to the point where it's basically 99.5% of the D300s!

magnesium body, twin card slots, better compatibility with Ai lenses, almost as good AF sensor in terms of point selection.. probably as good in terms of performance as there's a very high chance that it's based on the D300's AF module, but with fewer AF points... etc.

D90/80/70's have always competed more with the 30/40/50D range and they each decided to go down differing paths for this market segment!

Can't wait to see the specs on the D300 replacement now! th3:

EDIT: They also haven't really mentioned the camera's speed specs all that prominently either.. 6fps is a big improvement on the D90's 4fps, and is in D300 territory too, but now that it also does 14bit AD conversion. I wonder if switching to 14bit mode slows the fps rate slows too, as it does on the D300 and D3x(but not the D3/700)

reaction
16-09-2010, 9:21am
Makes me wonder what the new d300 replacement will look like.

Makes me wonder when the D300s replacement will be. Looks like mid 2011, I don't think I can wait that long!

agb
16-09-2010, 6:33pm
Makes me wonder when the D300s replacement will be. Looks like mid 2011, I don't think I can wait that long!
I know I can't, but I will wait long enough to see what results this new sensor gives.

RaoulIsidro
16-09-2010, 10:54pm
Officially announced 15 September 2010 (16 September Oz time...)
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1009/10091515nikond7000.asp

A great camera!
I can now use my Ai lenses! (on a prosumer budget)

reaction
17-09-2010, 12:06am
what are these Ai lenses? what do they do that so many use them?

RaoulIsidro
17-09-2010, 12:32am
what are these Ai lenses? what do they do that so many use them?

Ai (automatic indexing, aka aperture indexing) are Nikkor lenses made over 40 years ago. Before that time, they were just called non-Ai.
Here's a link:
http://www.nikonlinks.com/unklbil/nomenclature.htm
However, older non Ai lenses can be made into Ai by a slight modification of the aperture ring. I have converted a few of my Nikkor non Ai into Ai lenses by purchasing a conversion kit from Nikon.
The Nikon D7000 is a prosumer camera that opens up a whole new opportunity for owners of old Nikkor lenses to be used on that camera. (MF of course, but with metering etc.)
This is something Canon never did, and abandoned it's great FD line of lenses.
Nikkor MF Ai lenses are legendary.
Well, Canon too, but they left the FD orphaned and abandoned.
Here is another link about these lenses:
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/index.htm
and here:
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/canon/fdresources/fdlenses/index.htm
The D7000 is ground breaking because it is the first prosumer (not professional) camera to be able to offer the use of these lenses made over 40 years ago!

arthurking83
17-09-2010, 8:24am
what are these Ai lenses? what do they do that so many use them?

To further add to Raul's reply:

there are some, great Ai/Ais lenses, and Nikon made a lot of lenses in the old days, in Ai/Ais form, that they never persisted with later on in AF format.

58, 55 and 50mm f/1.2 lenses. The 58mm version is a legend and must be made from the element unobtanuim if you go by the price it generally sells for.. even on ebay! :eek:

Then there are very affordable lenses from the Ai era that Nikon did persist with into the AF era too. Some of those work perfectly well and as well as the AF variant, but of course Ai means manual focus, and manually focusing is not for everyone.

By no means is every Ai/Ais lens the greatest lens ever made, and in general the more modern version is(or should be) better.. but for variety in the Nikon range there are so many types of lenses that have already been made, it seems a shame to not be able to use them more efficiently on modern Nikon cameras.
That's why the D7000 is a bit of a revelation.. it simply allows the user to explore more lens options and use them a little easier. And it does so at a lower price than was previously available. :th3:

peterb666
17-09-2010, 12:52pm
The 58mm version is a legend and must be made from the element unobtanuim if you go by the price it generally sells for.. even on ebay! :eek:


I believe the high cost is that the lenses are hand shaped by virgins from Venus. There are a shortgage of people from Venus which is why Nikon ceased production of the lens.

wolffman
17-09-2010, 1:54pm
I was thinking about the AI lens use at this level body, and I reckon its the first they put out at this level since the F70. If the F100 and the F90 were more like todays D200/300, then the F80, F75, D100, D70, D80 and D90 are the same level camera, and the none of which have metered with manual lenses.

AmPhot
17-09-2010, 5:43pm
Hmmmmmm, have been reading about this camera today. Giftmas is not too far away and my 80 is over 2 years old......... ;)

I @ M
17-09-2010, 6:19pm
Hmmmmmm, have been reading about this camera today. Giftmas is not too far away and my 80 is over 2 years old......... ;)

Glenn, unfortunately ( or not unfortunately as the case may be :D ) you, your more advanced abilities and current gear level are exactly where the D7000 is fairly and squarely aimed. :rolleyes:

old dog
17-09-2010, 7:22pm
mine too methinks. I think its agood upgrade from the D80...esp at my stage.

I @ M
17-09-2010, 7:28pm
mine too methinks.

Absolutely, I think Nikon have done their homework very well on this model and identified how many people worldwide are in exactly the same situation and managed top produce a very logical "next step" without cannibalising sales from other models.

AmPhot
17-09-2010, 8:09pm
Anyone know when it'll be released in Australia ? Can't seem to find much info.

RaoulIsidro
17-09-2010, 9:41pm
Anyone know when it'll be released in Australia ? Can't seem to find much info.
Mid October, says some NPS regulars.
The listed price in one store in Bondi Junction is AUS $2,099
http://www.digidirect.com.au/slr_cameras/nikon/from/12

chrisbevan4
17-09-2010, 10:06pm
D7000 is a bit of a revelation.. it simply allows the user to explore more lens options and use them a little easier. And it does so at a lower price than was previously available. :th3:

Arthur

I was looking at a getting a lensbaby lens, but D90 to Lensaby no auto exposure/white balance as far as I know. May be a future option for me,
But good glass on front of camera, may be a better option for me anyway.

Chris

fastr1red
18-09-2010, 7:30am
Mid October, says some NPS regulars.
The listed price in one store in Bondi Junction is AUS $2,099
http://www.digidirect.com.au/slr_cameras/nikon/from/12

Think that's a bit over the top considering it's US$1199. They won't sell any here at that price...ah maybe cos it's not even released yet?

wheellathe
18-09-2010, 9:32am
Has any one noticed a Depth of field preview button

I @ M
18-09-2010, 11:25am
Mid October, says some NPS regulars.
The listed price in one store in Bondi Junction is AUS $2,099
http://www.digidirect.com.au/slr_cameras/nikon/from/12

I think that everyone is playing the game of get the punters in early with speculative pricing.

It seems to range from bargain level (http://www.vanbar.com.au/catalogue/product.php?id=73309) to a little bit expensive (http://www.teds.com.au/nikon-d7000/nikon-d7000-body-only/w1/i10072349_10072860/) to me seeing as it hasn't been released yet.

arthurking83
18-09-2010, 11:49am
Has any one noticed a Depth of field preview button

Yep! it's there, at the 7 o'clock position when viewed from front on.... as per normal.
Hopefully it's also the same type as per the D300 where you can assign it as an added function button too. The list of available alternate functions is long and should keep the most avid tweakers happy.

OK..... just had a peek at DPR's 'hands on' and it seems it is customisable! :th3:

phild
18-09-2010, 12:02pm
I'm looking at getting a second body, if the D7000 had lens microadjust I'd be tempted to dabble in the dark side :eek:, have a bet each way, IMO AF lens calibration is a big omission from this body.

Xebadir
18-09-2010, 12:05pm
Um...its called AF fine tune...and its available in the menu. See prior posts, but this camera has the microadjustment options.

phild
18-09-2010, 6:58pm
Oops I looked back again through the nikon specs, there's one word only "finetuning ", which I missed.

If the final price ends up around $1400 I'll be tempted unless canon sharpens it's pencil on the 7d

old dog
18-09-2010, 7:26pm
if it`s around $1400, I`ll be running down to Sydney to get my hands on one. Still tempted though to get the 300s or wait for it`s upgrade..........no, I can`t wait that long.......drat. Must have new toys........now.....:camera::love0:

littlegod
19-09-2010, 12:26pm
RRP will be about $1,800...hopefully much less soon.

DesmondD
19-09-2010, 6:21pm
My thoughts are that this is not a replacement for the D90 or D300s but rather a whole new model .
A bit like the D5000 it is a 'tweener' , between the D90 and D300 .
I think Nikon is slowly phasing out the focus drives and since this is half a step between the D90 and D300 models we no longer have a plastic body with focus drive . Something like what they did with the D50 when they gave us a D40 with no focus drive - we had to take a step up for focus drive .

Either "Cheap body and expensive lenses "
Or " Use old lenses but pay for an expensive body "

I don't think we will see a D400 , I imagine that will also go up half a step .
I think they are priming us for a pro dx body . The last pro dx body was the D2x so maybe we will be seeing a D9000 soon which will be like a D3 body with a dx sensor .

The D90 series has gone the way of the D50 - the last of its kind with a focus drive .
Well that's my opinion anyway and it looks like a great camera !

.

ezpz
19-09-2010, 7:43pm
Can't wait to get my hands on one of these!

old dog
19-09-2010, 8:26pm
If it`s $1200 US then it should only be around or under 1400.....should being the operative word. If it`s 1800 then thats a deal breaker for me...I`ll go for a 300s instead.

TEITZY
19-09-2010, 9:47pm
Even given the strong dollar I'd be surprised if it retails for less than $1600. Should be more than the Canon 60D which is around $1500 from reputable dealers. I'd guess between $1700-$1800.

Cheers
Leigh

kiwi
19-09-2010, 10:24pm
1700 on digital rev

Will be interested to see a hands on comparison to the d300s

peterb666
20-09-2010, 6:58pm
1700 on digital rev

Will be interested to see a hands on comparison to the d300s

That seems rather high for a grey import. I would expect the genuine Australian stock will be around the same.

kiwi
20-09-2010, 7:32pm
B&h $1200 usd
Camerasdirect here $2000 aud

You'd expect then Aussie bricks and mortar stores about $2200 and grey $1700

Aussie dollar now .94 so that'll help

I @ M
20-09-2010, 7:49pm
You'd expect then Aussie bricks and mortar stores about $2200 and grey $1700



Like I said in an earlier post Darren, it is all speculative at the moment. When recognised "expensive" shops like Vanbar are advertising them at bargain prices (http://www.vanbar.com.au/catalogue/product.php?id=73309) there must be a massive amount of trap the early takers into a "possible" price.

peterb666
20-09-2010, 8:15pm
Like I said in an earlier post Darren, it is all speculative at the moment. When recognised "expensive" shops like Vanbar are advertising them at bargain prices (http://www.vanbar.com.au/catalogue/product.php?id=73309) there must be a massive amount of trap the early takers into a "possible" price.

The Vanbar pricing seems better. That would make it around 60% to 70% more than the D3100 which in itself is pretty close to D5000 in specs.

I find it hard to believe that a camera that is essentially supposed to be a D90 replacement would be priced the same as the D300S.

reaction
21-09-2010, 9:28am
Vanbar pricing exactly $1200USD -> AUD + GST10%. Now unless I'm wrong, there would be shipping costs, warranty costs (somehow AU warranty providers are the most expensive in the world)

I really don't see the point of ordering anywhere when they promise to change the price on release.

I @ M
21-09-2010, 9:37am
I don't quite see your point in that post reaction.

Is there something unique about Australia that we incur shipping costs on imports, after all, the camera is made in Thailand and has to be "shipped" to any retail market whether it be Australia, Europe or the North American continent.

As for warranty being expensive in Australia, check out the costs that you will incur to return something like a camera to a repair facility in Hong Kong if you should need warranty work done compared to the cost of getting it to a local service agent.

reaction
21-09-2010, 1:02pm
You read that completely wrong.

Warranty providers are expensive in Australia. That's why local stock costs more, and 'international warranties' of many brands exclude Australia and only Australia for service.

Camera/lens 1st runs are generally made in Japan. Our wharfies and landing fees add more cost than other countries. Or maybe it's volume? Who knows. But I've never seen any product not made more expensive in Australia due to this.

I @ M
21-09-2010, 1:51pm
Reaction, you really need to get out and see how warranty claims / repairs are funded and carried out.

In the case of Vanbar, they buy the camera body ( Nikon specific as the header of this forum indicates ) and retail said camera. If the camera that you bought from Vanbar develops a fault during the warranty period you will be instructed to send the camera to Nikon's authorised repair agency who will carry out the necessary repair at no charge to you. As for the "warranty provider'', it is Nikon Australia who provide the warranty as they are a wholely owned subsiduary of Nikon Japan.
Nikon Australia will then pay their authorised service centre for the repair needed to your camera at the rate that Nikon Australia decide they are paying, not at the rate the repair centre would like to be paid for their efforts.

As for international warranty on Nikon products, their terms are quite clear, if you buy a product made by them that is covered under their international warranty ( pretty much everything except camera bodies which are covered under local warranty only ) from a legitimate retailer and have the proper paperwork they will cover repairs.

Which current model products are produced in Japan as a "first run" series?

I think you will find that the D700, D3s and D3x are the only models made in Japan, a few years ago I beleive that some of the early D200 series were made in Japan but the rest all came from Thailand.

Please show me some figures that detail how "our wharfies and landing fees" contribute to the supposedly higher cost of a Nikon camera in Australia. I think that you would be better off considering the cost of living scale and taxation regimes globally to find a real answer on pricing.

Xebadir
21-09-2010, 4:40pm
Meh...its unfair...that Australia. Robin Hood complex aint in it.

We pay more for everything, for no apparent reason other than we are in Australia...rates...bills. We pay more for computers, drives, screens, food....unfortunately the only way we can protest is to buy out of the country...until the retailers shrivel up and die or realise that you cant do that sort of crap and expect people to put up with it.

reaction
21-09-2010, 5:58pm
I think we're getting off track. The point is I don't believe D7000 will sell for $1400 here. If you find it for that price on release, please let me know cuz it'll save me trying to source it from USA.

I @ M
21-09-2010, 6:02pm
I think we're getting off track.

I think you need to consider just who the "we" part of that statement is.

I merely pointed out that it was speculatively priced from bargain basement to somewhere near realistic at a few shops.

You took the discussion from there ------

kiwi
21-09-2010, 6:30pm
1200 usd seems tempting but ignores the tax levied locally of you buy in the states, ie sales tax, or gst importing into Australia

Then add freight

Then add the lack of warranty on the imported body

Taking all that into account a local price of 1700 seems right, 2000 prob a bit exe

old dog
21-09-2010, 7:49pm
if it`s gonna be 1700 or more I will get the 300s instead. I`m sure nikon will see some logic in this pricing business.....then again, maybe not and probably not.

ving
21-09-2010, 7:52pm
if we all boycott the model they might give it away ;)

alas this wont happen cause we are acting (like its the best thing since sliced bread) the price will show accordingly :p

just bought a d90 so it worries me not :p

quangsta
21-09-2010, 10:31pm
according to someone i know who called up dwidigitalcameras they said it will be approx $1200AUD.

being an alternative upgrade to the d90 (rather then an upgrade) and also assuming its marketed 'lower' than the d300/s. $1200 seems about right considering d90 is ~$785 and d300 ~$1600

RRRoger
21-09-2010, 11:41pm
heres an interesting test on it... the first test i have seen.

http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2010/09/nikon-d7000/

The Videos are truly awesum.
I am afraid they are way beyond my skill level.
I wonder which lens were used?

The stills seem over exposed to me.
Perhaps the camera was still set up for night photography or the sun was overly bright.

I sure hope Nikon does not come out with anything else before the D4.
My NAS is going crazy.
I've already ordered a D3100 and D7000 and would pickup a D700s (D800) and AF-S Nikkor 80-400 VRII in a heartbeat.

Sar NOP
24-09-2010, 10:06am
Some jpeg shots straight from the camera, from 100 ISO to 12800 ISO : http://www.naturapics.com/809-sample-iso-du-nikon-d7000.html

TEITZY
24-09-2010, 10:21am
ISO 12800 looks ridiculously clean though they are far from full rez images. Looks like it might be close to the D3/D700 at high ISO's which is a fair achievement providing they don't destroy the fine detail with the in camera NR.

Cheers
Leigh

kiwi
24-09-2010, 10:26am
with more mp for cropping will help with noise too

I still have my hands in my pocket though.

DesmondD
24-09-2010, 10:32am
with more mp for cropping will help with noise too

I still have my hands in my pocket though.

Me too - but I'm hoping they don't do the dirty on us and put the 14 meg D3100 sensor in the D5100 instead of this sensor .

kiwi
24-09-2010, 10:42am
By the way, retail stores are expecting the first batch of deliveries last week of October :D

DesmondD
24-09-2010, 10:46am
By the way, retail stores are expecting the first batch of deliveries last week of October :D

Living in New Zealand I only have one question " What year ?" :D

Xevious
24-09-2010, 11:12am
The D7000 look quite attractive bit of gear. Which of the Canon range was it released to compete (or beat) with?

kiwi
24-09-2010, 11:30am
60d is the one i believe was the target

TEITZY
24-09-2010, 11:35am
The D7000 look quite attractive bit of gear. Which of the Canon range was it released to compete (or beat) with?

Seems to be between the Canon 60D & 7D. Invariably Canon and Nikon seem happy not to compete with each other directly specs wise with most of their DSLRS. I think it's probably closer to the 7D but should be at a cheaper price point and providing IQ is good I think it will sell pretty well (I know I want one :D ).

Cheers
Leigh

reaction
24-09-2010, 11:58am
60D can't compete with the D90, it's a step down from the 50D. The D7000 squarely competes with the 7D, but is slightly under. The D300s successor should be placed well above in order to better the D7000.

AmPhot
26-09-2010, 12:55pm
Can someone explain what it means in the spec list by "ISO expandable up to 25600" ? Are they alluding to the "H0/H1" ISO settings or something else ? I'm pretty much sold on this as my next body, just waiting for final release date and pricing. Ted's has pre-order pricing at around $1900.

DesmondD
26-09-2010, 1:04pm
Can someone explain what it means in the spec list by "ISO expandable up to 25600" ? Are they alluding to the "H0/H1" ISO settings or something else ? I'm pretty much sold on this as my next body, just waiting for final release date and pricing. Ted's has pre-order pricing at around $1900.

Yeah , as far as I know 'expandable' means the hi-1 , hi-2 options of a processing trick used to go beyond the sensor's normal highest iso .

arthurking83
26-09-2010, 1:21pm
I reckon $1900 sounds a bit on the high side, and would expect(or would have expected) a starting price of closer to $1500.
But then again, places like Ted's have always been a little on the high side for new cameras.
I remember them not budging from their $2700 quote on the D300 when that was new, and I wouldn't accept anything over $2400 as a realistic price.

They(and other shops) missed out on my money with my self imposed $2400 max price limit, and I ended up going with a Grey importer instead.. @ $2500 including an MC-36 remote.

As Des alluded too.

native ISO values mean that the camera is calibrated to expose correctly at those values, whereas the Hi and Lo values are psuedo ISO values, and only achieved by using the capabilities of the camera's electronics.

ie. At Lo1(ISO100) the actual sensors ability is still ISO200, which is native ISO setting. At ISO100, the camera over exposes at ISO200, but process the resultant image with -1Ev to give you an image that looks like it's exposed at ISO100.
What usually happens tho, is that if you don't take extra precautions to keep the highlights in check, they blow out and are not as recoverable as they otherwise would be at ISO200.
That means: if you shoot the scene at ISO200, and over expose the highlights by say.. +1.3Ev, in your (proper) raw converter ;) you apply -1.3Ev exposure compensation, and you can almost always recover those (previously) lost highlights. If you try the same exposure method at ISO100, you most likely will never recover the full 1.3Ev of lost highlight detail, but may get something like only 0.5Ev of recovery.. remember because at ISO100 the camera is already over exposing. The plus side it that you can get better shadow detail recovery.
The opposite would therefore be true at the other high end of the ISO range, beyond the highest calibrated ISO value. Calibrated ISO values (on Nikon cameras) simply mean where the actual numbers start and end. Hi and Lo are the processed extended range.

I've tested these qualities for myself,and found that I prefer to shoot at the Lo1 ISO value, and do my best to protect the highlights.
I don't normally play at the high end, and just accept whatever quality the camera is capable of.

RaoulIsidro
27-09-2010, 6:32pm
This dynamic poll by DPR is very interesting.
It's currently having the D7000 as the top gun.
Last time I looked, the 60D was dead last... tsk tsk
(Poll window is on the right side of the page)

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1031

I @ M
27-09-2010, 6:42pm
This dynamic poll by DPR is very interesting.
It's currently having the D7000 as the top gun.
Last time I looked, the 60D was dead last... tsk tsk
(Poll window is on the right side of the page)

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1031

Please tell me you aren't serious!!!!

Any poll on DPreview on the state of photokina is almost guaranteed to have been overwhelmed by voters of the pre-pubescent type that wouldn't know where photokina is being held, have never owned a camera in their life and are purely apprentice forum trolls.

After all, DPreview being owned by amazon.com just loves figures like that to boost their sales.

Did you vote?

Viewpoints
01-10-2010, 8:17am
A friend of mine wants to buy a secondhand D90. Is it a good idea to sell my one year old D90 + 18-105 to get D7000 + 28-300? :confused013

TEITZY
01-10-2010, 9:25am
A friend of mine wants to buy a secondhand D90. Is it a good idea to sell my one year old D90 + 18-105 to get D7000 + 28-300? :confused013

Depends what you shoot really. The D7000 will do most things better than the D90, but of course that doesn't mean that the D90 won't get the job done just as well either :D If you do sports and weddings and think you need better video, AF, high ISO performance & extra fps & resolution then go for it.

As for the lens, it's a nice one lens solution but 28mm is not that wide on a DX body. I think the 18-105 had reasonable IQ as well so a 10x zoom like the 28-300 might not be as good in some repects as a 5x zoom, but you might be more than happy with it :D

Cheers
Leigh

RRRoger
01-10-2010, 11:39am
A friend of mine wants to buy a secondhand D90. Is it a good idea to sell my one year old D90 + 18-105 to get D7000 + 28-300? :confused013

Depends on whether the D90 fills your needs. Why pay more if you do not need it?

The increased resolution will not amount to much. Maybe 10% each way in picture size.
The file size will use up a lot more card and computer disk space though.
Also increased resolution will reveal your errors more. So expect a lower percentage of keepers, at least at first.

You will gain faster picture taking with better AF, but if you now only use the center spot focus it won't be much.
The high ISO should double.
The Video should be a lot better.

The jury is still out on the Nikkor 28-300. It is supposed to be very good except for trouble in the corners under certain conditions.
The 70-300 VR is supposed to be sharper and my favorite DX lens is the 18-200.
I no longer have a D90 and plan on using a Nikkor 28-70, 70-200, and 80-400 on my D7000.

Psycronic
09-10-2010, 2:24pm
does the af coupling mean it will support older AF lenses?

I @ M
09-10-2010, 4:08pm
does the af coupling mean it will support older AF lenses?

Yes, just as the D90 did. :)

old dog
09-10-2010, 4:40pm
wish it was available right now.....just looked at iso performance from 100 to 12,800 with NR on......wow. Just tried to find it (as I thought I`d saved the link) bugger, can`t find it but if you do a little looking, you will find it. Price at Ted`s sounds far too expensive. You can get a 300s at DDP for $1775 and that`s pretty tempting. The 7000 sounds more like a better fit for me though.

TEITZY
09-10-2010, 4:53pm
Lens Compatibility for the D7000.

Cheers
Leigh

• AF-S, AF-I, Type G or D AF Nikkor
• Other AF Nikkor/AI-P Nikkor

• Type D PC Nikkor

• Non-CPU





• IX Nikkor/AF Nikkor for F3AF
• AI-P NIKKOR-All functions supported

- All functions supported except 3D Color Matrix Metering II
- All functions supported except some shooting modes
- Can be used in exposure modes A and M; electronic rangefinder can be used if maximum aperture is f/5.6 or faster; Color Matrix Metering and aperture value display supported if user provides lens data. Up to 9 lenses can be registered.
- Cannot be used
-All functions supported except 3D color matrix metering II

AmPhot
09-10-2010, 5:35pm
Yep the larger camera chains are really pushing for people to pre-order the D7000. I've been in Ted's and Fletchers who are both quoting around $1900 (:eek:). Will wait for the start of November and see what I can find. I. Am. Buying. This. Camera. :D

fastr1red
09-10-2010, 7:58pm
The way the Aussie $ is now compared with USA, the D7000 should be around AU$1100. It does come from the same factory and shipping to Australia would surely be cheaper????

peterb666
09-10-2010, 8:45pm
The way the Aussie $ is now compared with USA, the D7000 should be around AU$1100. It does come from the same factory and shipping to Australia would surely be cheaper????

Unfortunately, to a large extent pricing is based on what the market will tollerate and in Australia we are use to high prices. While some of the exchange rate windfall may be passed on, I wouldn't hold my breath expecting pricing as good as the US.

Psycronic
09-10-2010, 9:35pm
Yes, just as the D90 did. :)

Excellent


wish it was available right now.....just looked at iso performance from 100 to 12,800 with NR on......wow. Just tried to find it (as I thought I`d saved the link) bugger, can`t find it but if you do a little looking, you will find it. Price at Ted`s sounds far too expensive. You can get a 300s at DDP for $1775 and that`s pretty tempting. The 7000 sounds more like a better fit for me though.

Considering we are pretty much at parity, and the cost in the US is $1199

ZedEx
09-10-2010, 11:50pm
my Nikon rep was pretty certain that pricing would be around the 2 grand mark. With overseas prcing, remember to add GST to that , and if you're planning to grey market import, add GST plus any other customs fees you might be up for. It's like a lot of things really, the Nissan GT-R is hugely overpriced in Australia but a lot cheaper overseas. It all depends on the market

Psycronic
10-10-2010, 10:16am
my Nikon rep was pretty certain that pricing would be around the 2 grand mark. With overseas prcing, remember to add GST to that , and if you're planning to grey market import, add GST plus any other customs fees you might be up for. It's like a lot of things really, the Nissan GT-R is hugely overpriced in Australia but a lot cheaper overseas. It all depends on the market

The overseas pricing, $1199 + 10% GST plus + $70 postage is still going to be cheaper than the Australian price. Maybe our cost price is just hugely inflated

maccaroneski
18-10-2010, 11:54am
I never get sick of these Hitler parodies - Hitler finds out his Nikon D7000 is not shipping until November.


http://vimeo.com/15830670

Xebadir
19-10-2010, 12:40pm
Its a bit of a race in my case...whether I can get a D7000 or will pick up a D700 first. Both are on my shopping list before my stormchasing in May next year (the video to me is attractive, as is the res increase and ISO performance...will be retiring the D300 and the D40)..just not sure who is going to win...depends if I find a reasonably priced D700 body or end up getting a new one from overseas...and whether I find a 14-24 F2.8 on the market (hint anyone want to sell one?). D7000+D700+14-24 F2.8+24-70 F2.8 and a 50 F1.8 = Stormchasing dream team. My dad is over in the states for business so I might see if he can manage to get me a D7000....never know your luck.

swifty
03-11-2010, 9:19pm
D7000 has an Aussie price. $1695 at ECS with a possible delivery date of 10/11/10.
DigitalRev, one of the site sponsors also has it at $1616.81 delivered (just checked).
D-D Photo has it at $1899.
Looks like its still by far the cheapest in the states at $1200 USD.

maccaroneski
03-11-2010, 10:06pm
*Sigh*... I'm so confused. I am actually in a position where I need to get another camera (better half lost hers and a lens of mine, but it was insured). D700? D7000? I think that I might flip a coin...

Even more confusing is the price discrepancy above... the D700 is actually cheaper to buy from HK than the US where as noted above the D7000 goes for a 50% premium... :confused013

peterb666
03-11-2010, 11:09pm
Nikon on Broadway (Sydney) has the D7000 for $1639 cash. Nikon Australia warranty.

Nikon on Broadway (http://www.nikononbroadway.com/)

swifty
04-11-2010, 10:35am
OT: Re: broadway. $2860 for D700 Aussie model. Oh man.. Itching to buy. I wonder if they're doing the trade in offer too.

DigitalRev
04-11-2010, 12:59pm
hmm...The Nikon D700 is around $1,000 AUD more than the D7000 from us (HK). The Canon 7D looks like a competition and it's priced the same at the moment. ;)

peterb666
04-11-2010, 7:35pm
hmm...The Nikon D700 is around $1,000 AUD more than the D7000 from us (HK). The Canon 7D looks like a competition and it's priced the same at the moment. ;)

The D700 and D7000 are not comparable cameras. The D700 is full-frame and the D7000 is a cropped sensor camera. That explains the $1000 difference quite easily.

kiwi
04-11-2010, 7:42pm
I think compared to the d700 and even d300s it's a tad overpriced, I wouldn't be surprised to see it come down in price a fair bit after the initial rush to gush

kiwi
04-11-2010, 7:43pm
....or it's being deliberately ratcheted high for a high price super dx d400 :-)

DigitalRev
04-11-2010, 7:44pm
The D700 and D7000 are not comparable cameras. The D700 is full-frame and the D7000 is a cropped sensor camera. That explains the $1000 difference quite easily.

Yes, I agree, that's why i put Canon 7D ;)

maccaroneski
04-11-2010, 8:21pm
I think compared to the d700 and even d300s it's a tad overpriced, I wouldn't be surprised to see it come down in price a fair bit after the initial rush to gush

At say $1600, I agree - a d300s can be picked up for 1500, and a d700 for 2200.

If you can pick one up for 1200 (the USD price) then it becomes a slightly harder decision.

If it goes to 1000 after the rush, then it's a very hard decision.

swifty
04-11-2010, 11:52pm
At say $1600, I agree - a d300s can be picked up for 1500, and a d700 for 2200.

If you can pick one up for 1200 (the USD price) then it becomes a slightly harder decision.

If it goes to 1000 after the rush, then it's a very hard decision.

I agree re: current Aussie (and seemingly elsewhere eg. HK) intro D7000 pricing. At around the $1600-1700 AUD mark its not very attractive IMO.
At the current US MSRP I think its on the mark for a newly introduced camera and because of the features it offers, I expect the price to drop very slowly from this.

GinjaNinja52
05-11-2010, 7:54pm
Has anyone on this forum got this camera? I'm looking longingly as buying this camera as my primary and first piece of equipment, but i want some personal opinions of the camera...
So any advice from anyone would be great, especially if you have this camera!

AmPhot
05-11-2010, 8:04pm
Has anyone on this forum got this camera? I'm looking longingly as buying this camera as my primary and first piece of equipment, but i want some personal opinions of the camera...
So any advice from anyone would be great, especially if you have this camera!

Yes. :) Under the site sponsors thread there's some discussion about the camera here (http://www.ausphotography.net.au/forum/showthread.php?70249-Nikon-D7000-is-now-available-at-DigitalRev). I've only had mine for 2 days but I love it ! I have upgraded from my 2 year old D80 so it's quite a leap in features for me. My main genre is macro and I got this because of it's decent ISO range. Controls are very similar to the D80 so I've had no problems getting stuck in and shooting with it. If you do a search on Flickr there's a couple of good D7000 groups discussing it and posting photos taken with it. Is there anything specific you wanted to know ?

deef
08-11-2010, 5:40pm
Mine arrived today. Only taken a few very ordinary snaps with it so far to make sure its working. I think I 'm going to like it. Very similar in controls to my D90. Slightly different shape to the handgrip so it doesnt feel comfortable as the D90 on first handling. The shutter release feels softer and feels very nice.

Cheers, John D