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NickMonk
19-03-2009, 8:48am
See it here on Strobist:
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2009/03/plug-into-mcnallys-brain-with-hot-shoe.html

I just ordered it, sounds like a cracker, particularly if you have Nikon. He is the king of strobism with small flash if you don't know him.

old dog
19-03-2009, 9:14am
I think I`ll be getting one as well. Need to learn more and this book looks like a winner.

ehor
19-03-2009, 12:15pm
$38 delivered from BigW online.
Use the code HOMEENT09 for free delivery :th3:

N*A*M
19-03-2009, 5:11pm
3 cheers for ehor!

order placed... now we wait

saratoga
19-03-2009, 5:45pm
hmmm...I can't find it there!

Jcas
19-03-2009, 7:03pm
hmmm...I can't find it there!

Once you get onto the bigwentertainment.com.au site, go to books, then to photography.
You should see it there, if not type the authors name into search and up it comes.:)

Lani
19-03-2009, 9:09pm
Thanks Nick for the heads up, just ordered one too.
Thanks for the promo code Ehor. :th3:


Just realised why you made the comment "now we wait" NAM, 14-20 days before despatch!

kaiser
19-03-2009, 9:45pm
So what's the difference between the imported one ($73.46) vs the Aussie one? The imported one is 320 pages and the Aussie one is 272 pages...hmmmm:confused013
http://www.bigwentertainment.com.au/artist/mcnally_joe_679477.html


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321580141?ie=UTF8&tag=joemcnpho-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0321580141

NickMonk
19-03-2009, 9:46pm
$38 delivered from BigW online.
Use the code HOMEENT09 for free delivery :th3:

OH CRAP! I paid $57 to have it delivered by Amazon from the States. I didn't for one moment think that it might actually be available in Australia as they usually aren't. CRAP! :angry0:

Jcas
19-03-2009, 10:10pm
OH CRAP! I paid $57 to have it delivered by Amazon from the States. I didn't for one moment think that it might actually be available in Australia as they usually aren't. CRAP

Oh No!!! Nick i didn't see the bigW link either until after i ordered, but mine was only 41.00 delivered via Fishpond books in Aussie.

N*A*M
20-03-2009, 1:39pm
So what's the difference between the imported one ($73.46) vs the Aussie one? The imported one is 320 pages and the Aussie one is 272 pages...hmmmm:confused013
http://www.bigwentertainment.com.au/artist/mcnally_joe_679477.html


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321580141?ie=UTF8&tag=joemcnpho-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0321580141

they both trace back to the same ISBN-13 so hopefully we're going to be getting the right book

there seem to be a two variations on the subtitle: Creative Applications of Small Flashes vs Big Light from Small Flashes

ehor
20-03-2009, 2:00pm
So what's the difference between the imported one ($73.46) vs the Aussie one? The imported one is 320 pages and the Aussie one is 272 pages...hmmmm:confused013
http://www.bigwentertainment.com.au/artist/mcnally_joe_679477.html


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321580141?ie=UTF8&tag=joemcnpho-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0321580141

I'm not sure but I'll be mad if we get ripped off a chapter or two.
Let's just hope they are using a smaller font or bigger pages.... or it was a typo.

Here's the direct link to BigW guys:
http://www.bigwentertainment.com.au/product/hot_shoe_diaries_creative_applications_of_small_flashes_2958093_679477.html

I can't wait to get it even though I'm a Canon shooter :D

kaiser
20-03-2009, 2:19pm
Yeah hopefully :) The one that lani mentioned at fishpond.com.au is the 320pg version for $41 delivered.

ehor
20-03-2009, 2:21pm
Oh well I've send off an email to Joe asking about it. Wonder if I'll get a reply :p

old dog
20-03-2009, 3:29pm
I`ve got mine ordered.....woohoo. Might learn how to use my flash now.

N*A*M
20-03-2009, 4:30pm
i just read through the 32 page sample copy and now i'm dying to get the book! i love his writing style, and the sb900 stuffed in the chicken carcass haha!

umajo
20-03-2009, 6:38pm
i have irdered mine too:th3:

djaef
22-03-2009, 11:53am
And how cool is the shot of "The birth of a speedlite", shot on tungsten in daylight. Hopefully the wait will not be too long. I ordered mine from bookware.com.au for $38 as well.

Shelley
22-03-2009, 9:12pm
So what's the difference between the imported one ($73.46) vs the Aussie one? The imported one is 320 pages and the Aussie one is 272 pages...hmmmm:confused013
http://www.bigwentertainment.com.au/artist/mcnally_joe_679477.html


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321580141?ie=UTF8&tag=joemcnpho-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0321580141

Lets hope the imported one has a total page count and the aussie one just the pages number 1-272 and have not included the count for title page, indexes and other misc. stuff. That is what i am counting on.

Should be a good read...

Shelley
23-03-2009, 2:44pm
Just discovered the Joe McNally books, there seem to be two. The cheaper one is a slightly different title and from visual images on-line - seems smaller.

I found both on line - the other one was $72 and the one i ordered is $37 - still think it will be very useful.

kiwi
25-03-2009, 11:22am
Ordered too - thanks !!

Jcas
26-03-2009, 11:16am
Just got an email from Fishpond saying mine should be here on Tues or Wednesday ... yay:)

deadgoose
27-03-2009, 2:50pm
I have it on backorder from Dymocks at 39.95 + 5 bucks post. They said it could take a while but I'm in no hurry. Brolly, stand and flash clamp on their way. Looking forward to learning some new stuff.

jschokman
31-03-2009, 12:44am
Hi guys,

got my copy a few weeks ago. ordered on the monday from amazon UK and received it that thursday, awesome.

It's a great read, lots of tech detail in this one. Lots of gear plugs , he loves the sb900 but still has uses for the sb800, considering the 900 doesnät fit in a whole bunch of coldshoes. My 900 wonät fit in my justin clamp, metal short brolly swivels from midwest, etc. basically it'll only go on the camera or in the plastic foot.

He uses the su800 commander unit all the time with an SC cord to allow him to hold it at different angles to reach all the flashes. All of that will be unnecessary once the new nikon pocket wizards come out but until then, line of sight is still required, especially at the distances he places the SB's from the camera.

Jcas
01-04-2009, 3:16pm
Got mine today, fantastic read by the looks of it.... :):)

kaiser
01-04-2009, 4:37pm
Got mine today, fantastic read by the looks of it.... :):)

Damm....I ordered from Fishpond the same day as you and they told me they won't even expect it to reach them until April 11....what the?

Jcas
01-04-2009, 4:52pm
Damm....I ordered from Fishpond the same day as you and they told me they won't even expect it to reach them until April 11....what the?

Does seem strange, i been dealing with Fishpond for years and find them excellent, not sure what gives ... :confused013

hyperactive
05-04-2009, 10:59pm
So can someone confirm the difference between the 272 page and 320 page editions?

Apparently there are 3, not 2. A 272 page, a 303 page, and 320 page one. I wanna know if there are any differences between them before taking the plunge.

NickMonk
11-04-2009, 1:19am
Mine is the 303 pager (Amazon) but don't know what the difference is.

All I can say is I am a little sick of the terms "puppys"

Jcas
11-04-2009, 8:23am
Mine is 303 too from Fishpond, i emailed Fishpond asking them about the different versions and their reply was that they are not aware of different versions, so who knows????

hyperactive
12-04-2009, 4:19am
has anybody on the forum got the 272 page australian version? ...at least we'd have 2 to compare...

kaiser
12-04-2009, 8:24am
Maybe the 272 pg version was a typo?? I emailed Penguin Publishing directly and they confirmed that the Australian version they are distributing is 303 pages.

ShaneB
12-04-2009, 10:38am
Maybe the 272 pg version was a typo?? I emailed Penguin Publishing directly and they confirmed that the Australian version they are distributing is 303 pages.

It's a bit weird. The copy I got, published by "New Riders" comprises:

pages i to xiv = 14 pages
2 pages apparently without numbers
pages 1 - 256
= 272 pages


Whatever the pages, I'm very impressed with the nook.

Oh, and as to a "new" book: it's marked as published January 2008.

Happy Easter.

umajo
12-04-2009, 11:20am
still waiting hey are out of stock

hyperactive
13-04-2009, 2:25pm
so nobodys got the penguin one?

Is the title different? The 272 is something like "creative applications for small flashes" and from the quick summary its aimed at ameteurs/enthusiasts where as the "big light from small flashes" is more aimed at pros?

...I might be very wrong though...

Lani
23-04-2009, 11:00am
Anybody else order from BigWentertainment I keep getting emails to say they can't get stock?....even thought hey supposedly had stock when I ordered it ages ago. :confused013

kiwi
23-04-2009, 11:06am
Ditto Lani :confused013

Lani
23-04-2009, 11:10am
I guess I'll keep waiting, may as well now after this long. This isn't a problem isolated to them, I ordered a kelby book through seekbooks, and rang to confirm they had it in stock before I ordered...yet, once again...emails kept being sent pushing back the delivery date. Bit between a rock and a hard place cos none of our local booksellers stock the titles i am after, and they take 6 weeks to order them in. :rolleyes:

ricktas
23-04-2009, 11:52am
Lani. Give Fullers a try. I know the owner, and both himself and his staff are really goods, they at least are willing to give you accurate information about availability etc.

umajo
23-04-2009, 12:46pm
i am in the same boat have email to say

Thanks for your email. Unfortunately, there has been a
slight delay from the supplier of HOT SHOE DIARIES: CREATIVE
APPLICATIONS OF SMALL FLASHES. We are now expecting the book To come
into us within the next week to two weeks.


they have already took it off my credit vard last month:cool: so who is fullers rick and do they have a website

Jcas
23-04-2009, 3:32pm
I got the Kelby photoshop book and the Hot Shoe Diaries from Fishpond within a couple of weeks from date of order.
I know it isn't the right thing to do, but i never use the local shops,I simply can't afford to. i find they are at least $10-20 per book, sometimes more than the online shops.

kingwheatie
23-04-2009, 4:28pm
Anybody else order from BigWentertainment I keep getting emails to say they can't get stock?....even thought hey supposedly had stock when I ordered it ages ago. :confused013

I ordered one through Bigw at the same time this thread started, got one email to say they were waiting on stock. Book was delivered on Monday(20-4-09).... must of only got a small shipment in:confused013 dont know whats going on??????

umajo
23-04-2009, 5:13pm
lucky you i got my email today to say another 2 weeks and i also ordered mine when this thread first started also:confused013

umajo
24-04-2009, 7:11am
another email from big w today i am cancelling and will try to get it elsewhere email states

The arrival of this item from our suppliers has been further delayed. We are working continuously with our suppliers to ensure delivery is received ASAP and your order completed.

so sounds like they no longer know when they will get it now :confused013

kingwheatie
24-04-2009, 12:27pm
another email from big w today i am cancelling and will try to get it elsewhere email states

The arrival of this item from our suppliers has been further delayed. We are working continuously with our suppliers to ensure delivery is received ASAP and your order completed.

so sounds like they no longer know when they will get it now :confused013

That sucks. Order it direct from the US, you might get it quicker and cheaper, hope it works out alright.

ehor
27-04-2009, 12:56pm
Got an email this morning from Big W saying it's been dispatched. Wohoo! :)

old dog
27-04-2009, 1:11pm
I also ordered long ago when the thread started. Another email from big W, saying the book is delayed again. Have cancelled order. Anyone steer me onto a better source?

kiwi
27-04-2009, 1:35pm
I got an email today saying dispatched from Big W too, so, maybe wait another day or so ?

umajo
27-04-2009, 1:41pm
i cancelled mine and went to www.play4me.com.au ordered friday email today to say its been dispatched

Lani
27-04-2009, 1:59pm
I got an email today saying dispatched from Big W too, so, maybe wait another day or so ?

Same here.

N*A*M
28-04-2009, 10:43am
my bigw order came yesterday

303 pages

ehor
01-05-2009, 11:18am
Got my book today from BigW also.

kiwi
01-05-2009, 11:20am
...and mine arrived too :)

jamalnic
01-05-2009, 11:49am
I ordered mine Wednesday and had an email yesterday to say it had been dispatched. :)

MATT
08-05-2009, 8:31am
I got mine, but I will never buy from BigW online again..

hyperactive
09-05-2009, 12:46am
...and all the BigW ones are 303 pgs?

kiwi
10-05-2009, 9:39pm
Care to share your results from reading the book ?

Camera -EV, flash +EV, on camera bounced

http://www.peakactionimages.com/gallery/main.php/d/99786-1/APL_4159.jpg

Lani
10-05-2009, 9:44pm
Sheez, you're into it already Darren. :D I've only had a chance to flick through it so far.

Nice result though, I'm assuming it's straight from camera? The skin tones are great.

kiwi
10-05-2009, 9:51pm
Not exactly, ran through LR and a small tweak

I liked the first chapter about his default settings re rear curtain sync, always on A and always Matrix and using diff combos of + and -EV on camera and flash, so, had a quick play with a few settings

MATT
11-05-2009, 1:30pm
Not exactly, ran through LR and a small tweak

I liked the first chapter about his default settings re rear curtain sync, always on A and always Matrix and using diff combos of + and -EV on camera and flash, so, had a quick play with a few settings

I've just started reading it and found that his setting were interesting.. But yet to try it out.

Just need 3 more SB800's and I'll be set.

MATT

N*A*M
11-05-2009, 4:33pm
my book looks beat up and tattered already - because i've been taking it with me everywhere. turns out i set my camera up quite similarly to him. the book really inspires you to try stuff out. i wish i had a bajillion speedlights and a model like risa!

Shelley
11-05-2009, 10:41pm
my book looks beat up and tattered already - because i've been taking it with me everywhere. turns out i set my camera up quite similarly to him. the book really inspires you to try stuff out. i wish i had a bajillion speedlights and a model like risa!

Yeah well what you do is buy a roll of good contact - not the cheap sticky stuff that attaches itself to everything else, but the book. :) I reinforce the spine and cover page edges with strips of contact before covering. I have purchased a few bird and photography books of late (including the Joe McNally book). I noticed that these books are not put together well and will deteriorate with use. I keep telling my brother to give me his bird book, so I can repair it, can ya hear me brother....- but he can't part with it....Working in a library has its perks, you know....

Jules
18-05-2009, 10:37pm
My copy arrived today. Only took a week (from Big W online), so wasn't too bad compared to some other people's experiences. Only had a brief flick through so far, but it looks pretty good.

One thing that caught my eye was the setup sketch on page 273. Notice how the author refers to himself? As...

...wait for it...

...Mongo! He even uses third-person speak!! The exact words are "Mongo shoot fasion. Mongo like". That's the Mongo we all know and love!

Now we know who Mongo really is - it's Joe McNally! :D